From ietfc@btconnect.com Fri Dec 7 10:17:16 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52B2421F85CB; Fri, 7 Dec 2012 10:17:16 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.899 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.899 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.300, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gSJtc-mzLftz; Fri, 7 Dec 2012 10:17:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from co1outboundpool.messaging.microsoft.com (co1ehsobe001.messaging.microsoft.com [216.32.180.184]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59E5621F85F4; Fri, 7 Dec 2012 10:17:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail72-co1-R.bigfish.com (10.243.78.254) by CO1EHSOBE005.bigfish.com (10.243.66.68) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.1.225.23; Fri, 7 Dec 2012 18:17:14 +0000 Received: from mail72-co1 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail72-co1-R.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0026B9A02D1; Fri, 7 Dec 2012 18:17:14 +0000 (UTC) X-Forefront-Antispam-Report: CIP:157.56.249.85; KIP:(null); UIP:(null); IPV:NLI; H:AMSPRD0710HT004.eurprd07.prod.outlook.com; RD:none; EFVD:NLI X-SpamScore: -22 X-BigFish: PS-22(zzbb2dI98dI9371I936eI542I1432Izz1de0h1202h1e76h1d1ah1d2ahzz1033IL17326ah8275bh8275dhz2dh2a8h5a9h668h839h947hd24hf0ah1177h1179h1288h12a5h12a9h12bdh137ah139eh13b6h1441h1504h1537h162dh1631h1758h304l1155h) Received: from mail72-co1 (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail72-co1 (MessageSwitch) id 1354904231864607_22475; Fri, 7 Dec 2012 18:17:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from CO1EHSMHS021.bigfish.com (unknown [10.243.78.233]) by mail72-co1.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D03911C007B; Fri, 7 Dec 2012 18:17:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from AMSPRD0710HT004.eurprd07.prod.outlook.com (157.56.249.85) by CO1EHSMHS021.bigfish.com (10.243.66.31) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.1.225.23; Fri, 7 Dec 2012 18:17:11 +0000 Received: from DB3PRD0610HT005.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com (157.56.252.53) by pod51017.outlook.com (10.255.160.167) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.16.245.2; Fri, 7 Dec 2012 18:17:05 +0000 Message-ID: <042c01cdd4a6$da9b8fa0$4001a8c0@gateway.2wire.net> From: t.petch To: Brian E Carpenter References: <50B3967F.7040205@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2012 18:15:27 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Originating-IP: [157.56.252.53] X-OriginatorOrg: btconnect.com X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 07 Dec 2012 11:02:07 -0800 Cc: draft-ietf-6man-uri-zoneid@tools.ietf.org, appsdir@ietf.org, apps-discuss@ietf.org Subject: Re: [appsdir] [apps-discuss] Review of draft-ietf-6man-uri-zoneid-05 X-BeenThere: appsdir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Apps Area Review List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2012 18:17:16 -0000 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian E Carpenter" To: "Yves Lafon" Cc: ; ; ; Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 4:19 PM > Yves, > > On 26/11/2012 14:56, Yves Lafon wrote: > > I have been selected as the Applications Area Directorate reviewer for > > this draft (for background on appsdir, please see > > http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/app/trac/wiki/ApplicationsAreaDirectorat e). > > > > Please resolve these comments along with any other Last Call comments > > you may receive. Please wait for direction from your document shepherd > > or AD before posting a new version of the draft. > > > > Document: draft-ietf-6man-uri-zoneid-05 > > Title: IPv6 Zone Identifiers in Address Literals and Uniform Resource > > Identifiers > > Reviewer: Yves Lafon > > Review Date: 26 November 2012 > > IETF Last Call Date: 2012-11-23 > > > > Summary: The document is almost ready to progress, but some > > clarifications are needed on two points explicited below. > > > > In section 3: > > << > > This document implies that all browsers should recognise a ZoneID > > preceded by an escaped "%". In the spirit of "be liberal with what > > you accept", we also recommend that URI parsers accept bare "%" signs > > (i.e., a "%" not followed by two valid hexadecimal characters). This > > makes it easy for a user to copy and paste a string such as > > "fe80::a%en1" from the output of a "ping" command and have it work. > > Does it mean that such URIs can be present in an HTML document or that > > they MAY allow bare "%" signs when the URI is pasted in the address bar? > > (Those are two different use cases, and browsers may have different code > > paths for both). > > This is exactly why I suggested in the "New URL Standard..." thread > on the IETF list that we need a formal distinction between URI syntax > and the permitted "syntax" for user input strings. Without that > distinction, we are obliged to specify them both as if they were > the same thing. I really don't know how to capture this in the current > draft. Brian My take on that thread is somewhat different, namely that there is a distinction, that the IETF defines the valid output of the process and has never specified the input or processing thereof, leaving every web browser to exercise its skill and judgment thereon. (Roy Fielding did say "I have absolutely no problem with writing a proposed standard for parsing references, particularly if browser developers are willing to adhere to one." and "It is not non-interoperable behavior to parse input data differently depending on the context in which it is entered.") In which case, you can spell that out in this I-D. Tom Petch > Since we do say that URIs with ZoneIDs are meaningless outside the > originating host, that would mean they shouldn't be included in HTML > documents IMHO. But I think somebody needs to rewrite RFC 3986. > > > In section 4: > > It says > > << > > An HTTP server or proxy MUST ignore any ZoneID attached to an > > incoming URI, as it only has local significance at the sending host. > >>> > > > > A proxy can be considered as a sending host, so does it mean that a the > > receiving end MUST strip all ZoneID before processing the request? (and > > it would be a significant change to implementations), or could this be > > resolved by mandating Web browser to strip ZoneID prior to sending the > > request as it is only significant for the sending host and as it is the > > implementation that needs to be updated to recognize the new syntax? > > IMHO it would be safest if the sending host strips it. We could certainly > suggest that. > > However, as the draft is on the IESG agenda this week, we won't update > it until we get all the IESG comments. > > Thanks > > Brian > > _______________________________________________ > apps-discuss mailing list > apps-discuss@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/apps-discuss > From sm@elandsys.com Fri Dec 7 14:19:50 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 116F621F8BC6 for ; Fri, 7 Dec 2012 14:19:50 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FAH2lXB9ROC0 for ; Fri, 7 Dec 2012 14:19:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx.ipv6.elandsys.com (mx.ipv6.elandsys.com [IPv6:2001:470:f329:1::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62BA521F8B9A for ; Fri, 7 Dec 2012 14:19:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from SUBMAN.elandsys.com ([197.224.129.85]) (authenticated bits=0) by mx.elandsys.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id qB7MJUo3028452 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 7 Dec 2012 14:19:42 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=opendkim.org; s=mail2010; t=1354918783; bh=qAInuPTMkjtSnaztlzscuu+DY69z0d1uNnfxv3HUAaA=; h=Date:To:From:Subject:Cc:In-Reply-To:References; b=CyZOgn3m03DuzpY0FLlknUZNZwZs/aPeSEGpiROFypApYH6h2/WDfzIrLN18a0wcl HPTEmb9yhvTn/6uwVoyxJXpOqK4fkiFaLfkWt12BdZ1/Dpe0S3oMd/M6Xw4BjapydG uP8keuB0t7MQtEATkO/nM+nsYcV+80LK4Tkn+6d0= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=elandsys.com; s=mail; t=1354918783; i=@elandsys.com; bh=qAInuPTMkjtSnaztlzscuu+DY69z0d1uNnfxv3HUAaA=; h=Date:To:From:Subject:Cc:In-Reply-To:References; b=nfXebSpR/SW/zehCUC7fEk6CbmkQzm0MPksG8ecUOzTG//+iRuK0pFs9vgg+H/iR7 idB5pyuyAo6ksUXX1BJ4LX2QRuy3EdrqncoY9e7VdlBFBsGXOR8vOyuMfEx7mIOqwh cDFs9LeKdJ880KDc5qWGXKkPP1lXJwd7HPsNsGQk= Message-Id: <6.2.5.6.2.20121207141746.0ad05530@elandnews.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.5.6 Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2012 14:19:22 -0800 To: Tobias Gondrom From: SM In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Cc: appsdir@ietf.org Subject: Re: [appsdir] Request for early review of draft-ietf-core-coap-13.txt X-BeenThere: appsdir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Apps Area Review List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2012 22:19:50 -0000 Hi Tobias, Carsten asked for an early review of draft-ietf-core-coap-13. Would you be able to do it by December 21? Thanks, -sm From brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com Sat Dec 8 00:19:02 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27D9B21F85E8; Sat, 8 Dec 2012 00:19:02 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.359 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.359 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.268, BAYES_00=-2.599, J_CHICKENPOX_15=0.6, RCVD_ILLEGAL_IP=1.908, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FM73qN-lA-sZ; Sat, 8 Dec 2012 00:19:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-wi0-f180.google.com (mail-wi0-f180.google.com [209.85.212.180]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 041E021F85DB; Sat, 8 Dec 2012 00:19:00 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-wi0-f180.google.com with SMTP id hj13so115803wib.13 for ; Sat, 08 Dec 2012 00:19:00 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:organization:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=rSpSAC4TX7UZT8D5jt0OT4DajhQrZOJSofZjqZxfCU0=; b=pkR00wDdF77+hgkI62VO5C8hU3MjdsIXZlcZO143DGC1tror5GUxjB3+1gRHJ946tU VoZ1bPsXO+KOHOUdtBk6PSVmFEUQALBfffEg8zq48B3H5ULbvy1xOxvMJm5y0HmMlzwN ZwFRPSbJey+oWqWVHuNp86L2VaBFzsWiy+foddSYrztLbkpwA5uzGJUurl4oaddhCSWX tEFvTqlltV0dZt7JcAOd1n7lAGq1x2a8hyj1p4zdZZz6rvVw0hMgWO7PFQBZ0VnBvLtR CHdxU4XdCwQW8k7C005WqOsb3KsIvjPHw5A0O15ybWAhB8kbsfM797CHomFmy1Bb8u+D Zeag== Received: by 10.180.102.101 with SMTP id fn5mr2173573wib.19.1354954740109; Sat, 08 Dec 2012 00:19:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.65] (host-2-102-217-203.as13285.net. [2.102.217.203]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id u6sm1523738wif.2.2012.12.08.00.18.57 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 08 Dec 2012 00:18:58 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <50C2F802.1040209@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 08 Dec 2012 08:19:14 +0000 From: Brian E Carpenter Organization: University of Auckland User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "t.petch" References: <50B3967F.7040205@gmail.com> <042c01cdd4a6$da9b8fa0$4001a8c0@gateway.2wire.net> In-Reply-To: <042c01cdd4a6$da9b8fa0$4001a8c0@gateway.2wire.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 08 Dec 2012 00:21:36 -0800 Cc: draft-ietf-6man-uri-zoneid@tools.ietf.org, appsdir@ietf.org, apps-discuss@ietf.org Subject: Re: [appsdir] [apps-discuss] Review of draft-ietf-6man-uri-zoneid-05 X-BeenThere: appsdir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Apps Area Review List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Dec 2012 08:19:02 -0000 Tom, On 07/12/2012 18:15, t.petch wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Brian E Carpenter" > To: "Yves Lafon" > Cc: ; ; > ; > Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 4:19 PM > ... >>> Does it mean that such URIs can be present in an HTML document or that >>> they MAY allow bare "%" signs when the URI is pasted in the address bar? >>> (Those are two different use cases, and browsers may have different code >>> paths for both). >> This is exactly why I suggested in the "New URL Standard..." thread >> on the IETF list that we need a formal distinction between URI syntax >> and the permitted "syntax" for user input strings. Without that >> distinction, we are obliged to specify them both as if they were >> the same thing. I really don't know how to capture this in the current >> draft. > > Brian > > My take on that thread is somewhat different, namely that there is a > distinction, that the IETF defines the valid output of the process and > has never specified the input or processing thereof, leaving every web > browser to exercise its skill and judgment thereon. > (Roy Fielding did say > "I have absolutely no problem with writing a proposed standard > for parsing references, particularly if browser developers are > willing to adhere to one." > and > "It is not non-interoperable behavior to parse input data > differently depending on the context in which it is entered.") > > In which case, you can spell that out in this I-D. We've changed the text in that area in draft-ietf-6man-uri-zoneid-06, which has just come out. However, I think we'll leave the general problem for the Apps Area and the W3C to resolve. Regards Brian From sm@elandsys.com Sun Dec 9 09:09:12 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BEE521F8CA1 for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2012 09:09:12 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id m2z8uCF69k9K for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2012 09:09:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx.ipv6.elandsys.com (mx.ipv6.elandsys.com [IPv6:2001:470:f329:1::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96A3F21F8CA0 for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2012 09:09:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from SUBMAN.elandsys.com ([197.226.232.68]) (authenticated bits=0) by mx.elandsys.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id qB9H90G4028775 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2012 09:09:09 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=opendkim.org; s=mail2010; t=1355072950; bh=rS+jW4IohYZbU2M0Ea6/+F9b5prDXuFTCH1nE9LpTVI=; h=Date:To:From:Subject:Cc; b=YLNc0uuqszHT/tU2z8QNg1LsSGO4KN04EZmvitn1/GuY17tT5/mw141sAzwpeZEdr ztUzW9hakMf/CwyoHyhJcI9IqzdSuCIZOrnrNea2I3xNUDc86tk/V0RzsSTteHRQDZ Fvuvj8n3V9/VaHWw73fy+hguDChigj0Mv7/X8XhU= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=elandsys.com; s=mail; t=1355072950; i=@elandsys.com; bh=rS+jW4IohYZbU2M0Ea6/+F9b5prDXuFTCH1nE9LpTVI=; h=Date:To:From:Subject:Cc; b=ZyGEZX/3f3Y6pTHa1VRAPrcKF+NaWcmtkmmr9oD2YIPGyq2dzue/UU/22iXatj5ZV VmFRGbNzX+26wlAPsNxiH/pSCBRkmsnJcVN7lb73uNrwFM16pR/GpYnKGI9Uw+wvqe 7jij9XNrx0a4gyXvNHYP67A5YX+/vqKdIq7/2fNw= Message-Id: <6.2.5.6.2.20121209083059.0920da80@elandnews.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.5.6 Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2012 08:46:19 -0800 To: appsdir@ietf.org From: SM Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Subject: [appsdir] List of drafts for review X-BeenThere: appsdir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Apps Area Review List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2012 17:09:12 -0000 Hello, Here's the list of drafts for review. If you have any preferences please let me know. draft-bonica-special-purpose-03 I am not taking this one as I posted comments during the Last Call. draft-daboo-ical-vcard-parameter-encoding-02 This one was identified for review because of the encoding scheme. draft-ietf-6renum-enterprise-04 There's a DNS angle. As some of the reviewers have DNS listed as expertise it's worth a review. That doesn't mean that the review should not look for the Apps angle. draft-ietf-6renum-static-problem-02 currently assigned to Dave Cridland draft-ietf-avt-rtp-evrc-nw-08 There are some media type registrations. draft-ietf-bliss-call-completion-18 I picked it because of URI. draft-ietf-mboned-auto-multicast-14 It's about IPv6. There was a nice AppsDir review of a draft on a related subject. :-) draft-ietf-sipclf-format-09 I picked it because of the Internationalization angle. draft-schaad-pkix-rfc2875-bis-03 I picked it for the security angle and getting another pair of eyes looking at a -bis draft. Best regards, -sm From sm@elandsys.com Mon Dec 10 08:23:52 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16B4921F852A for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 08:23:52 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id lNMDe6qmUNNY for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 08:23:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx.ipv6.elandsys.com (mx.ipv6.elandsys.com [IPv6:2001:470:f329:1::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDB0E21F84FC for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 08:23:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from SUBMAN.elandsys.com ([197.224.130.164]) (authenticated bits=0) by mx.elandsys.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id qBAGGQ2Z018901 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 10 Dec 2012 08:16:36 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=opendkim.org; s=mail2010; t=1355156204; bh=WVSfzGFsl71MEozeeGzXeQAZB4kp/zRGmPvkE5dk79w=; h=Date:To:From:Subject:Cc:In-Reply-To:References; b=27cd+g6PPo/s6nN/tlarcSz39TXmDI3YSa7TI+pZhr9zAC8XeynZF3rrl+j0mm5eo REjIbnIKSaGWqi1n3qwvxnrRWpqNPFXl18ahv06U9llfxNLS/iD1GoQ2mlejf8xjMi Y+NNb0y8eqgXBGFz2jyTCMYWBUqvJN3b02JDi7ns= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=elandsys.com; s=mail; t=1355156204; i=@elandsys.com; bh=WVSfzGFsl71MEozeeGzXeQAZB4kp/zRGmPvkE5dk79w=; h=Date:To:From:Subject:Cc:In-Reply-To:References; b=Yp2eEwsRdelnfql+pb9pGzXtgv2JZMQtgWJ7WH2QG8lqW+I437L7TPQ6q7d2hRAMe 7fduc/+umUa3j0I4CoekJNl8Ywnfe2xHsf23WW0FguU2AXR3+Zolb3wW6a8a3f5jN1 VDA/F2ia7qZeYOBwHfmhI0JPsQP+mKRHgorJy8Cc= Message-Id: <6.2.5.6.2.20121210075556.0afe1f60@elandnews.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.5.6 Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 08:13:24 -0800 To: Joseph Yee , Tim Bray , Claudio Allocchio , Salvatore Loreto , Xiaodong Lee , Carsten Bormann , William Mills From: SM In-Reply-To: <6.2.5.6.2.20121209083059.0920da80@elandnews.com> References: <6.2.5.6.2.20121209083059.0920da80@elandnews.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Cc: appsdir@ietf.org Subject: Re: [appsdir] List of drafts for review X-BeenThere: appsdir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Apps Area Review List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 16:23:52 -0000 Hello, Here's the last round of assignments for this year. Please send the review to apps-discuss@ietf.org instead of appsdir@. Information about the email addresses to send the review to is at http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/app/trac/wiki/template The deadline for the assignments is December 21. Please acknowledge the assignment. draft-bonica-special-purpose-03 - Joseph Yee draft-daboo-ical-vcard-parameter-encoding-02 - Tim Bray draft-ietf-avt-rtp-evrc-nw-08 - Claudio draft-ietf-bliss-call-completion-18 - Sal draft-ietf-mboned-auto-multicast-14 - Carsten draft-ietf-sipclf-format-09 - Xiaodong Lee draft-schaad-pkix-rfc2875-bis-03 - William Mills draft-ietf-6renum-enterprise-04 - I'll take a look at it as the IESG Evaluation is in three days. No review: draft-hanes-dispatch-fax-capability-06 This draft has IANA Considerations. I didn't pick up the draft as Alexey already took a look at it. Best regards, -sm From Claudio.Allocchio@garr.it Mon Dec 10 08:38:37 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC19321F855B for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 08:38:37 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.719 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.719 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_IT=0.635, HOST_EQ_IT=1.245] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id XRn31UBslQ7k for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 08:38:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from cyrus.dir.garr.it (cyrus.dir.garr.it [193.206.158.29]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7F9321F8555 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 08:38:35 -0800 (PST) Received: internal info suppressed Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 17:35:02 +0100 (CET) From: Claudio Allocchio X-X-Sender: claudio@webcam1-all.garrtest.units.it To: SM In-Reply-To: <6.2.5.6.2.20121210075556.0afe1f60@elandnews.com> Message-ID: References: <6.2.5.6.2.20121209083059.0920da80@elandnews.com> <6.2.5.6.2.20121210075556.0afe1f60@elandnews.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.02 (OSX 1266 2009-07-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=garr.it; s=cyrus; t=1355157304; bh=Uz55O4SlUnEJLAk2xgDmyHp16aEuJ+pfavHdqutHyxU=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References; b=cNfeiq2APWPiQzuKGJw2wE4Q/rCZwsrCvpqM1CRi15RzBQxs55abtQOXwgJen75Xe SZBpdZCdl+wJFgipE38GhHVXgN05qZc0EQfwRyRUDpAxovFYDRMRlz6wg463D+f5lQ 1n2X2rM1/gNhwdy5u9EkLDOQYMSRH+NWpRTjgXE0= Cc: Joseph Yee , appsdir@ietf.org, Xiaodong Lee , Claudio Allocchio , William Mills , Tim Bray , Salvatore Loreto , Carsten Bormann Subject: Re: [appsdir] List of drafts for review X-BeenThere: appsdir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Apps Area Review List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 16:38:37 -0000 On Mon, 10 Dec 2012, SM wrote: > Hello, > > Here's the last round of assignments for this year. Please send the review > to apps-discuss@ietf.org instead of appsdir@. Information about the email > addresses to send the review to is at > http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/app/trac/wiki/template The deadline for the > assignments is December 21. Please acknowledge the assignment. > > draft-ietf-avt-rtp-evrc-nw-08 - Claudio I had a first quick look: ACK. If there are details I believe we need an additional eyes pair, I'll raise my hand! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Claudio Allocchio G A R R Claudio.Allocchio@garr.it Senior Technical Officer tel: +39 040 3758523 Italian Academic and G=Claudio; S=Allocchio; fax: +39 040 3758565 Research Network P=garr; A=garr; C=it; PGP Key: http://www.cert.garr.it/PGP/keys.php3#ca From tobias.gondrom@gondrom.org Tue Dec 11 03:56:22 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9265021F881E for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 03:56:22 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -95.361 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-95.361 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_HELO_EQ_D_D_D_D=1.597, FH_HOST_EQ_D_D_D_D=0.765, FM_DDDD_TIMES_2=1.999, HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR=2.426, HELO_EQ_DE=0.35, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RDNS_DYNAMIC=0.1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6yE-iw7J-EEc for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 03:56:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from lvps176-28-13-69.dedicated.hosteurope.de (lvps176-28-13-69.dedicated.hosteurope.de [176.28.13.69]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78BFE21F881C for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 03:56:21 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=gondrom.org; b=ngbg4H20xJhOOjIFMPeAUdbwNBrV3CXz39dHlUh+2zk2IYozPnrXT1ykoXdMiW1ntyc0CbaY4LcQjGALkODXB/6BKs13wIAcjo5UtqKH1ui0hF9ZFja2EdBzjM5xaBXH; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type; Received: (qmail 30206 invoked from network); 11 Dec 2012 12:56:18 +0100 Received: from 059148230045.ctinets.com (HELO ?10.56.78.172?) (59.148.230.45) by lvps176-28-13-69.dedicated.hosteurope.de with ESMTPSA (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted, authenticated); 11 Dec 2012 12:56:18 +0100 Message-ID: <50C71F60.2090608@gondrom.org> Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 19:56:16 +0800 From: Tobias Gondrom User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/17.0 Thunderbird/17.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sm+ietf@elandsys.com References: <6.2.5.6.2.20121207141746.0ad05530@elandnews.com> In-Reply-To: <6.2.5.6.2.20121207141746.0ad05530@elandnews.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------060703030502070708040300" Cc: appsdir@ietf.org Subject: Re: [appsdir] Request for early review of draft-ietf-core-coap-13.txt X-BeenThere: appsdir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Apps Area Review List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 11:56:22 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------060703030502070708040300 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 08/12/12 06:19, SM wrote: > Hi Tobias, > > Carsten asked for an early review of draft-ietf-core-coap-13. Would > you be able to do it by December 21? > > Thanks, > -sm > Hi SM, this I-D is very interesting, but quite extensive and honestly don't feel totally comfortable handling the large scope of it; if possible I would prefer to have a week longer, so I could work through it over the holidays. Would Dec-29 still be ok? Or would maybe somebody else be faster and interested? Thanks and sorry for the delay, Tobias --------------060703030502070708040300 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
On 08/12/12 06:19, SM wrote:
Hi Tobias,

Carsten asked for an early review of draft-ietf-core-coap-13.  Would you be able to do it by December 21?

Thanks,
-sm


Hi SM,
this I-D is very interesting, but quite extensive and honestly don't feel totally comfortable handling the large scope of it; if possible I would prefer to have a week longer, so I could work through it over the holidays. Would Dec-29 still be ok?
Or would maybe somebody else be faster and interested?

Thanks and sorry for the delay, Tobias



 --------------060703030502070708040300-- From sm@elandsys.com Tue Dec 11 05:37:15 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39FC521F87ED for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 05:37:12 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id igRbARCEd0FT for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 05:37:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx.ipv6.elandsys.com (mx.ipv6.elandsys.com [IPv6:2001:470:f329:1::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 558AD21F87A2 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 05:36:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from SUBMAN.elandsys.com ([197.224.141.62]) (authenticated bits=0) by mx.elandsys.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id qBBDaebS027412 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 11 Dec 2012 05:36:50 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=opendkim.org; s=mail2010; t=1355233013; bh=WemVnoDilaxeAAcNc21iN1u1V0O0DPae7jpYcnTO+NQ=; h=Date:To:From:Subject:Cc:In-Reply-To:References; b=2+nOtRx1epQEAxGLf85ps6WpU2zAoImoXa+LFon6vEEjYy/5SGY8Vcrr1FguQwMZ9 tFKcsOIePTb/rMYWu2L/qTsJexB9DynA9+EDn7zHu59Ud2BzY0MuBXFrsPe6CH/MEG yxYZQC9RESyPV/GcJ3zbfSIPeZ8wvI/uJ81mswqs= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=elandsys.com; s=mail; t=1355233013; i=@elandsys.com; bh=WemVnoDilaxeAAcNc21iN1u1V0O0DPae7jpYcnTO+NQ=; h=Date:To:From:Subject:Cc:In-Reply-To:References; b=xt+SHgeEFS5anPP3uPYagdyXvkUAyJB9QOkNvh+5TzbaO44sVGGdJPdeAJF1u1Mo7 JP7Maw8rgmhh/5EZHI0JNL2E1Yy/J66Hujkjwm4PJqba3+NCPrxsxkRINNdXTT7HJm 79bclFibhBx1HzgIeu0cQsSuhmUvh6jHG63/yWww= Message-Id: <6.2.5.6.2.20121211052206.0a4ce168@elandnews.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.5.6 Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 05:32:45 -0800 To: Tobias Gondrom , Carsten Bormann From: SM In-Reply-To: <50C71F60.2090608@gondrom.org> References: <6.2.5.6.2.20121207141746.0ad05530@elandnews.com> <50C71F60.2090608@gondrom.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Cc: appsdir@ietf.org Subject: Re: [appsdir] Request for early review of draft-ietf-core-coap-13.txt X-BeenThere: appsdir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Apps Area Review List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 13:37:16 -0000 Hi Tobias, At 03:56 11-12-2012, Tobias Gondrom wrote: >this I-D is very interesting, but quite extensive and honestly don't >feel totally comfortable handling the large scope of it; if possible >I would prefer to have a week longer, so I could work through it >over the holidays. Would Dec-29 still be ok? >Or would maybe somebody else be faster and interested? As Carsten made the request extending the date to December 29 is his call. I am ok with it if he agrees. I am not comfortable asking you to work through the holidays. As the draft is quite lengthy maybe the review could be a combined effort of two reviewers. If anyone would like to help out, please drop me a note. Alternately, I'll have to find someone else who is faster and interested. Let's see if anyone steps forward first. Best regards, -sm From cabo@tzi.org Tue Dec 11 05:53:10 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BB6A21F8765 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 05:53:10 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.249 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.249 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_DE=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9RD5eeRC8E38 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 05:53:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from informatik.uni-bremen.de (mailhost.informatik.uni-bremen.de [IPv6:2001:638:708:30c9::12]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CDD021F8645 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 05:53:09 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at informatik.uni-bremen.de Received: from smtp-fb3.informatik.uni-bremen.de (smtp-fb3.informatik.uni-bremen.de [134.102.224.120]) by informatik.uni-bremen.de (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id qBBDqptR024603; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 14:52:51 +0100 (CET) Received: from [10.0.1.2] (reingewinn.informatik.uni-bremen.de [134.102.218.123]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp-fb3.informatik.uni-bremen.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 31059B2E; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 14:52:51 +0100 (CET) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.2 \(1499\)) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 From: Carsten Bormann In-Reply-To: <6.2.5.6.2.20121211052206.0a4ce168@elandnews.com> Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 14:52:50 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <099E6C30-A781-4599-BC2F-D47CA9CA4203@tzi.org> References: <6.2.5.6.2.20121207141746.0ad05530@elandnews.com> <50C71F60.2090608@gondrom.org> <6.2.5.6.2.20121211052206.0a4ce168@elandnews.com> To: SM X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1499) Cc: Tobias Gondrom , appsdir@ietf.org Subject: Re: [appsdir] Request for early review of draft-ietf-core-coap-13.txt X-BeenThere: appsdir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Apps Area Review List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 13:53:10 -0000 On Dec 11, 2012, at 14:32, SM wrote: > Hi Tobias, > At 03:56 11-12-2012, Tobias Gondrom wrote: >> this I-D is very interesting, but quite extensive and honestly don't = feel totally comfortable handling the large scope of it; if possible I = would prefer to have a week longer, so I could work through it over the = holidays. Would Dec-29 still be ok? >> Or would maybe somebody else be faster and interested? >=20 > As Carsten made the request extending the date to December 29 is his = call. I am ok with it if he agrees. Of course, I would like it yesterday :-), but getting a good review this = year would be great. The optimal result would be to have it in time for the WGLC comment = processing. The WGLC closes on Dec 21, 23:59Z. (And, yes, the authors are planning = to spend some holiday time on this... But I agree this is different from asking reviewers to do this.) > I am not comfortable asking you to work through the holidays. As the = draft is quite lengthy maybe the review could be a combined effort of = two reviewers. If anyone would like to help out, please drop me a note. = Alternately, I'll have to find someone else who is faster and = interested. Let's see if anyone steps forward first. This draft is meant to interoperate with an HTTP world, and to solve, in = a constrained world, a subset of the problem HTTP solves. So those who = are familiar with how HTTP (1.1) has evolved recently probably have the = easiest time reviewing it from an appsdir perspective. While I also = have requested a separate secdir review, a healthy amount of = apps-centric security thinking will help with the security related = parts. So, yes, two reviewers that can maybe each focus on one of these = two angles would be perfect. Gr=FC=DFe, Carsten From tobias.gondrom@gondrom.org Tue Dec 11 07:05:48 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BB4821F8843 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 07:05:48 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -95.362 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-95.362 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.001, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_HELO_EQ_D_D_D_D=1.597, FH_HOST_EQ_D_D_D_D=0.765, FM_DDDD_TIMES_2=1.999, HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR=2.426, HELO_EQ_DE=0.35, RDNS_DYNAMIC=0.1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Npsq+cNdkh4Z for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 07:05:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from lvps176-28-13-69.dedicated.hosteurope.de (lvps176-28-13-69.dedicated.hosteurope.de [176.28.13.69]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C0FC21F8738 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 07:05:47 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=gondrom.org; b=hMJDQ7nifmCn/GULM4hMtf8+iwqBSe9cTIbZH6vGFOGjiM6zyampg+72GJVTKHvFouOipNS+NQUFVD1Ka8IO76ONFF5VWmYHn1xubYzc3h2C8THOFoYbJ8SZyGvNp1ps; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; Received: (qmail 1758 invoked from network); 11 Dec 2012 16:05:46 +0100 Received: from 059148230045.ctinets.com (HELO ?10.56.78.172?) (59.148.230.45) by lvps176-28-13-69.dedicated.hosteurope.de with ESMTPSA (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted, authenticated); 11 Dec 2012 16:05:45 +0100 Message-ID: <50C74BC7.4070209@gondrom.org> Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 23:05:43 +0800 From: Tobias Gondrom User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/17.0 Thunderbird/17.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: cabo@tzi.org References: <6.2.5.6.2.20121207141746.0ad05530@elandnews.com> <50C71F60.2090608@gondrom.org> <6.2.5.6.2.20121211052206.0a4ce168@elandnews.com> <099E6C30-A781-4599-BC2F-D47CA9CA4203@tzi.org> In-Reply-To: <099E6C30-A781-4599-BC2F-D47CA9CA4203@tzi.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: appsdir@ietf.org, sm+ietf@elandsys.com Subject: Re: [appsdir] Request for early review of draft-ietf-core-coap-13.txt X-BeenThere: appsdir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Apps Area Review List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 15:05:48 -0000 Yes, the scope of this I-D is fairly broad. Plus lengthy. That is indeed part of my concern. So if a second volunteer would be open to join, that might indeed be a good thing for this I-D. Honestly, it will be extremely difficult for me to find enough time during my normal work days before Dec-21, as the last days before Christmas seem to be more crazy busy.... So actually to work on it during my holidays is rather better for me, like probably also for the authors. So I have to ask either for extension or a replacement by someone faster than me. Best regards, Tobias Ps.: I definitely can offer the "apps-centric security" review bits.... ;-) On 11/12/12 21:52, Carsten Bormann wrote: > On Dec 11, 2012, at 14:32, SM wrote: > >> Hi Tobias, >> At 03:56 11-12-2012, Tobias Gondrom wrote: >>> this I-D is very interesting, but quite extensive and honestly don't feel totally comfortable handling the large scope of it; if possible I would prefer to have a week longer, so I could work through it over the holidays. Would Dec-29 still be ok? >>> Or would maybe somebody else be faster and interested? >> As Carsten made the request extending the date to December 29 is his call. I am ok with it if he agrees. > Of course, I would like it yesterday :-), but getting a good review this year would be great. > The optimal result would be to have it in time for the WGLC comment processing. > The WGLC closes on Dec 21, 23:59Z. (And, yes, the authors are planning to spend some holiday time on this... > But I agree this is different from asking reviewers to do this.) > >> I am not comfortable asking you to work through the holidays. As the draft is quite lengthy maybe the review could be a combined effort of two reviewers. If anyone would like to help out, please drop me a note. Alternately, I'll have to find someone else who is faster and interested. Let's see if anyone steps forward first. > This draft is meant to interoperate with an HTTP world, and to solve, in a constrained world, a subset of the problem HTTP solves. So those who are familiar with how HTTP (1.1) has evolved recently probably have the easiest time reviewing it from an appsdir perspective. While I also have requested a separate secdir review, a healthy amount of apps-centric security thinking will help with the security related parts. So, yes, two reviewers that can maybe each focus on one of these two angles would be perfect. > > Grüße, Carsten > From sm@elandsys.com Tue Dec 11 11:54:46 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: appsdir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45ABE21F86B6 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 11:54:46 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id CCYljlxR01qK for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 11:54:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx.ipv6.elandsys.com (mx.ipv6.elandsys.com [IPv6:2001:470:f329:1::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EEA021F871A for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 11:54:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from SUBMAN.elandsys.com ([197.224.142.100]) (authenticated bits=0) by mx.elandsys.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id qBBJs3VH020850 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 11 Dec 2012 11:54:14 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=opendkim.org; s=mail2010; t=1355255657; bh=YrJch0aCLFGsn5OJKAAHdX9jMdck5y68hVDEY7l5KF8=; h=Date:To:From:Subject:Cc:In-Reply-To:References; b=ZnKUNlE9soK1lGKluM7a/9QOjMCTgHmdnWyxdz3M9URjYjPnmogeMnJwcDSaFsjSM WCYhIgkJ8yBK5jotBRiibwrvkDNaq2uGvqIcxjHq8zvifDj8Tvxgd3blqGZ94buaX6 FBY4nzjlK+eFGc+6lQG8q18uJ7qNHt+8wVQLScjE= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=elandsys.com; s=mail; t=1355255657; i=@elandsys.com; bh=YrJch0aCLFGsn5OJKAAHdX9jMdck5y68hVDEY7l5KF8=; h=Date:To:From:Subject:Cc:In-Reply-To:References; b=dLiZe6+Vr+pjypDFMQtDmg/c2z64R8a6CbAo/v+qk6gNKXZ3OA/NuLX+EoNX0e7oY L39Z/Xa4ZBVKHOdsqfWmdMkvQGJTvL1dPiSdtpFz07974yQ6OP0y2M7fcVbKXQlrQQ dCrwZoRIKUFiHpr1DHT+3yF03zeHGBsUjVW/Xs50= Message-Id: <6.2.5.6.2.20121211114036.09a4ef30@elandnews.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.5.6 Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 11:53:06 -0800 To: Tobias Gondrom From: SM In-Reply-To: <50C74BC7.4070209@gondrom.org> References: <6.2.5.6.2.20121207141746.0ad05530@elandnews.com> <50C71F60.2090608@gondrom.org> <6.2.5.6.2.20121211052206.0a4ce168@elandnews.com> <099E6C30-A781-4599-BC2F-D47CA9CA4203@tzi.org> <50C74BC7.4070209@gondrom.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Cc: cabo@tzi.org, appsdir@ietf.org Subject: Re: [appsdir] Request for early review of draft-ietf-core-coap-13.txt X-BeenThere: appsdir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Apps Area Review List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 19:54:46 -0000 Hi Tobias, At 07:05 11-12-2012, Tobias Gondrom wrote: >So if a second volunteer would be open to join, that might indeed be >a good thing for this I-D. I'll leave this open as someone might step forward to help. >Honestly, it will be extremely difficult for me to find enough time >during my normal work days before Dec-21, as the last days before >Christmas seem to be more crazy busy.... So actually to work on it >during my holidays is rather better for me, like probably also for >the authors. So I have to ask either for extension or a replacement >by someone faster than me. I am not sure whether anyone would be faster as the mailing list has been quiet. Let's set December 29 as the deadline. >Ps.: I definitely can offer the "apps-centric security" review bits.... ;-) You fit the profile of the ideal reviewer for this assignment. :-) Best regards, -sm