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I=E2=80=99ve reviewed this draft. I=E2=80=99m not familiar enough with =
how layering works for the specific codecs in section 4 to comment on =
the correctness of that part, but the RTP parts look okay, and the rest =
seems clearly specified.

I found a couple of editorial nits:

- Might want to expand =E2=80=9CRTCP=E2=80=9D -> =E2=80=9CRTP Control =
Protocol (RTCP)=E2=80=9D the first time used.

- Figures 1-4, the label seems disconnected from the figure. Might also =
want to refer to the figures by number.

- Section 3, 4th paragraph: =E2=80=9CFMT=3DTBD=E2=80=9D - might want to =
add an RFC Editor note to fill this in with the actual number, to ensure =
this doesn=E2=80=99t get missed.

- Section 3.1, last paragraph: should =E2=80=9Care designed to match =
the=E2=80=9D be =E2=80=9Cmatches that of the=E2=80=9D?

Colin


> On 28 Apr 2017, at 09:39, Huangyihong (Rachel) =
<rachel.huang@huawei.com> wrote:
>=20
> Hi,
> =20
> I=E2=80=99ll extend this WGLC for another week (until 5/5) as I =
didn=E2=80=99t see any feedback in the list.
> =20
> If you think this draft has no further issues and ready for the next =
step, please don=E2=80=99t be silent and express it in the list. We=E2=80=99=
ll appreciate it.
> =20
> BR,
> Rachel (co-chair)
> =20
> From: avtext [mailto:avtext-bounces@ietf.org =
<mailto:avtext-bounces@ietf.org>] On Behalf Of Huangyihong (Rachel)
> Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2017 9:02 AM
> To: avt@ietf.org <mailto:avt@ietf.org>; avtext@ietf.org =
<mailto:avtext@ietf.org>
> Subject: [avtext] [avtcore] WGLC for draft-ietf-avtext-lrr-04
> =20
> Hi WG,
> =20
> It is agreed that draft-ietf-avtext-lrr-04 is stable enough for the =
next step. Therefore, this email starts a working group last call for =
draft-ietf-avtext-lrr-04. This WGLC runs until April 28th. So please =
have a look at the draft and send your comments to the avt list by then. =
Thanks.
> =20
> The draft is now available at =
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-avtext-lrr-04 =
<https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-avtext-lrr-04>.
> =20
> BR,
> Rachel (co-chair)
> =20
> _______________________________________________
> Audio/Video Transport Core Maintenance
> avt@ietf.org <mailto:avt@ietf.org>
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html =
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-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" =
class=3D"">I=E2=80=99ve reviewed this draft. I=E2=80=99m not familiar =
enough with how layering works for the specific codecs in section 4 to =
comment on the correctness of that part, but the RTP parts look okay, =
and the rest seems clearly specified.<div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">I found a couple of editorial nits:<div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">- Might want to expand =
=E2=80=9CRTCP=E2=80=9D -&gt; =E2=80=9CRTP Control Protocol (RTCP)=E2=80=9D=
 the first time used.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">- Figures 1-4, the label seems disconnected from the figure. =
Might also want to refer to the figures by number.</div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">- Section 3, 4th =
paragraph: =E2=80=9CFMT=3DTBD=E2=80=9D - might want to add an RFC Editor =
note to fill this in with the actual number, to ensure this doesn=E2=80=99=
t get missed.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""><div class=3D"">- =
Section 3.1, last paragraph: should =E2=80=9Care designed to match =
the=E2=80=9D be =E2=80=9Cmatches that of the=E2=80=9D?</div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Colin</div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""><div><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D"">On =
28 Apr 2017, at 09:39, Huangyihong (Rachel) &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:rachel.huang@huawei.com" =
class=3D"">rachel.huang@huawei.com</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div =
class=3D"WordSection1" style=3D"page: WordSection1; font-family: =
Helvetica; font-size: 10px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: =
normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; =
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word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><div style=3D"margin: =
0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; text-align: justify; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color: =
rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=3D"">Hi,<o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; text-align: justify; font-size: =
10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US"=
 style=3D"color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm =
0.0001pt; text-align: justify; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif;" class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color: rgb(31, 73, =
125);" class=3D"">I=E2=80=99ll extend this WGLC for another week (until =
5/5) as I didn=E2=80=99t see any feedback in the list.<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; =
text-align: justify; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif;" class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color: rgb(31, 73, =
125);" class=3D""><o:p class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></span></div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; text-align: justify; font-size: =
10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US"=
 style=3D"color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=3D"">If you think this draft =
has no further issues and ready for the next step, please don=E2=80=99t =
be silent and express it in the list. We=E2=80=99ll appreciate it.<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; =
text-align: justify; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif;" class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color: rgb(31, 73, =
125);" class=3D""><o:p class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></span></div><div =
class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; text-align: justify; =
font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span =
lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=3D"">BR,<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; =
text-align: justify; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif;" class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color: rgb(31, 73, =
125);" class=3D"">Rachel (co-chair)<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm =
0.0001pt; text-align: justify; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif;" class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color: rgb(31, 73, =
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3pt 0cm 0cm;" class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; =
text-align: left; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D""><b class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: 10pt; =
font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" class=3D"">From:</span></b><span =
lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, =
sans-serif;" class=3D""><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>avtext [<a =
href=3D"mailto:avtext-bounces@ietf.org" style=3D"color: purple; =
text-decoration: underline;" =
class=3D"">mailto:avtext-bounces@ietf.org</a>]<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><b class=3D"">On Behalf =
Of<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></b>Huangyihong =
(Rachel)<br class=3D""><b class=3D"">Sent:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Tuesday, April 11, 2017 =
9:02 AM<br class=3D""><b class=3D"">To:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a =
href=3D"mailto:avt@ietf.org" style=3D"color: purple; text-decoration: =
underline;" class=3D"">avt@ietf.org</a>;<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a =
href=3D"mailto:avtext@ietf.org" style=3D"color: purple; text-decoration: =
underline;" class=3D"">avtext@ietf.org</a><br class=3D""><b =
class=3D"">Subject:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>[avtext] [avtcore] WGLC for =
draft-ietf-avtext-lrr-04<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm =
0.0001pt; text-align: left; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif;" class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm =
0.0001pt; text-align: justify; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif;" class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" class=3D"">Hi WG,<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; =
text-align: justify; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif;" class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm =
0.0001pt; text-align: justify; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif;" class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" class=3D"">It is agreed =
that draft-ietf-avtext-lrr-04 is stable enough for the next step. =
Therefore, this email starts a working group last call for =
draft-ietf-avtext-lrr-04. This WGLC runs until April 28<sup =
class=3D"">th</sup>. So please have a look at the draft and send your =
comments to the avt list by then. Thanks.<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; =
text-align: justify; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif;" class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm =
0.0001pt; text-align: justify; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif;" class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" class=3D"">The draft is now =
available at<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a =
href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-avtext-lrr-04" =
style=3D"color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" =
class=3D"">https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-avtext-lrr-04<=
/a>.<o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm =
0.0001pt; text-align: justify; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif;" class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm =
0.0001pt; text-align: justify; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif;" class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" class=3D"">BR,<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; =
text-align: justify; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif;" class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" class=3D"">Rachel =
(co-chair)<o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm =
0cm 0.0001pt; text-align: justify; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" class=3D""><o:p =
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display: inline !important;" =
class=3D"">_______________________________________________</span><br =
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!important;" class=3D"">Audio/Video Transport Core Maintenance</span><br =
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<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">--&nbsp;<br class=3D"">Colin Perkins<br =
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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
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        Title           : The Layer Refresh Request (LRR) RTCP Feedback Message
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                          Justin Uberti
                          Stefan Holmer
                          Magnus Flodman
	Filename        : draft-ietf-avtext-lrr-05.txt
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Abstract:
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This version addresses the editorial issues pointed out by Colin and Zhengh=
ui during WGLC. Thank you for your comments!

On May 8, 2017, at 3:06 PM, internet-drafts@ietf.org<mailto:internet-drafts=
@ietf.org> wrote:


A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director=
ies.
This draft is a work item of the Audio/Video Transport Extensions of the IE=
TF.

       Title           : The Layer Refresh Request (LRR) RTCP Feedback Mess=
age
       Authors         : Jonathan Lennox
                         Danny Hong
                         Justin Uberti
                         Stefan Holmer
                         Magnus Flodman
Filename        : draft-ietf-avtext-lrr-05.txt
Pages           : 14
Date            : 2017-05-08

Abstract:
  This memo describes the RTCP Payload-Specific Feedback Message "Layer
  Refresh Request" (LRR), which can be used to request a state refresh
  of one or more substreams of a layered media stream.  It also defines
  its use with several RTP payloads for scalable media formats.


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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Title &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
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&nbsp;&nbsp;This memo describes the RTCP Payload-Specific Feedback Message =
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Looks good to me (although RTCP expands to =E2=80=9CRTP Control =
Protocol=E2=80=9D not =E2=80=9CReal-Time Transport Control Protocol=E2=80=9D=
).

Cheers,
Colin



> On 8 May 2017, at 20:07, Jonathan Lennox <jonathan@vidyo.com> wrote:
>=20
> This version addresses the editorial issues pointed out by Colin and =
Zhenghui during WGLC. Thank you for your comments!
>=20
>> On May 8, 2017, at 3:06 PM, internet-drafts@ietf.org =
<mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org> wrote:
>>=20
>>=20
>> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts =
directories.
>> This draft is a work item of the Audio/Video Transport Extensions of =
the IETF.
>>=20
>>        Title           : The Layer Refresh Request (LRR) RTCP =
Feedback Message
>>        Authors         : Jonathan Lennox
>>                          Danny Hong
>>                          Justin Uberti
>>                          Stefan Holmer
>>                          Magnus Flodman
>> Filename        : draft-ietf-avtext-lrr-05.txt
>> Pages           : 14
>> Date            : 2017-05-08
>>=20
>> Abstract:
>>   This memo describes the RTCP Payload-Specific Feedback Message =
"Layer
>>   Refresh Request" (LRR), which can be used to request a state =
refresh
>>   of one or more substreams of a layered media stream.  It also =
defines
>>   its use with several RTP payloads for scalable media formats.
>>=20
>>=20
>> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-avtext-lrr/ =
<https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-avtext-lrr/>
>>=20
>> There are also htmlized versions available at:
>> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-avtext-lrr-05
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-avtext-lrr-05
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>> https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-avtext-lrr-05
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-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" =
class=3D"">Looks good to me (although RTCP expands to =E2=80=9CRTP =
Control Protocol=E2=80=9D not =E2=80=9CReal-Time Transport Control =
Protocol=E2=80=9D).<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">Cheers,</div><div class=3D"">Colin</div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""><div><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D"">On =
8 May 2017, at 20:07, Jonathan Lennox &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:jonathan@vidyo.com" class=3D"">jonathan@vidyo.com</a>&gt; =
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D"">

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-webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D"">
<div class=3D"">This version addresses the editorial issues pointed out =
by Colin and&nbsp;<span style=3D"font-family: -webkit-system-font, =
'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=3D"">Zhenghui during =
WGLC. Thank you for your comments!</span></div>
<br class=3D"">
<div class=3D"">
<blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"">
<div class=3D"">On May 8, 2017, at 3:06 PM, <a =
href=3D"mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org" class=3D"">
internet-drafts@ietf.org</a> wrote:</div>
<br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline">
<div class=3D"">
<div class=3D""><br class=3D"">
A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts =
directories.<br class=3D"">
This draft is a work item of the Audio/Video Transport Extensions of the =
IETF.<br class=3D"">
<br class=3D"">
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Title =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;: The Layer =
Refresh Request (LRR) RTCP Feedback Message<br class=3D"">
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Authors =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;: Jonathan Lennox<br =
class=3D"">
=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;Danny Hong<br class=3D"">
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p;Stefan Holmer<br class=3D"">
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bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;Magnus Flodman<br class=3D"">
<span class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre"></span>Filename =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;: =
draft-ietf-avtext-lrr-05.txt<br class=3D"">
<span class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre"></span>Pages =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;: 14<br =
class=3D"">
<span class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre"></span>Date =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;: =
2017-05-08<br class=3D"">
<br class=3D"">
Abstract:<br class=3D"">
&nbsp;&nbsp;This memo describes the RTCP Payload-Specific Feedback =
Message "Layer<br class=3D"">
&nbsp;&nbsp;Refresh Request" (LRR), which can be used to request a state =
refresh<br class=3D"">
&nbsp;&nbsp;of one or more substreams of a layered media stream. =
&nbsp;It also defines<br class=3D"">
&nbsp;&nbsp;its use with several RTP payloads for scalable media =
formats.<br class=3D"">
<br class=3D"">
<br class=3D"">
The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:<br class=3D"">
<a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-avtext-lrr/" =
class=3D"">https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-avtext-lrr/</a><br =
class=3D"">
<br class=3D"">
There are also htmlized versions available at:<br class=3D"">
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class=3D"">
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/a><br class=3D"">
<br class=3D"">
A diff from the previous version is available at:<br class=3D"">
<a href=3D"https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-avtext-lrr-05" =
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Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at:<br class=3D"">
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Thanks - and yes, I realise I=E2=80=99m nit picking :-)

Cheers,
Colin



> On 8 May 2017, at 20:29, Jonathan Lennox <jonathan@vidyo.com> wrote:
>=20
> Thanks! I=E2=80=99ll fix that in the next revision, or with the RFC =
editor in the unlikely event there isn=E2=80=99t another one.
>=20
>> On May 8, 2017, at 3:12 PM, Colin Perkins <csp@csperkins.org =
<mailto:csp@csperkins.org>> wrote:
>>=20
>> Looks good to me (although RTCP expands to =E2=80=9CRTP Control =
Protocol=E2=80=9D not =E2=80=9CReal-Time Transport Control Protocol=E2=80=9D=
).
>>=20
>> Cheers,
>> Colin
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>>> On 8 May 2017, at 20:07, Jonathan Lennox <jonathan@vidyo.com =
<mailto:jonathan@vidyo.com>> wrote:
>>>=20
>>> This version addresses the editorial issues pointed out by Colin and =
Zhenghui during WGLC. Thank you for your comments!
>>>=20
>>>> On May 8, 2017, at 3:06 PM, internet-drafts@ietf.org =
<mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org> wrote:
>>>>=20
>>>>=20
>>>> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts =
directories.
>>>> This draft is a work item of the Audio/Video Transport Extensions =
of the IETF.
>>>>=20
>>>>        Title           : The Layer Refresh Request (LRR) RTCP =
Feedback Message
>>>>        Authors         : Jonathan Lennox
>>>>                          Danny Hong
>>>>                          Justin Uberti
>>>>                          Stefan Holmer
>>>>                          Magnus Flodman
>>>> Filename        : draft-ietf-avtext-lrr-05.txt
>>>> Pages           : 14
>>>> Date            : 2017-05-08
>>>>=20
>>>> Abstract:
>>>>   This memo describes the RTCP Payload-Specific Feedback Message =
"Layer
>>>>   Refresh Request" (LRR), which can be used to request a state =
refresh
>>>>   of one or more substreams of a layered media stream.  It also =
defines
>>>>   its use with several RTP payloads for scalable media formats.
>>>>=20
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>>>> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
>>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-avtext-lrr/ =
<https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-avtext-lrr/>
>>>>=20
>>>> There are also htmlized versions available at:
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<https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-avtext-lrr-05>
>>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-avtext-lrr-05 =
<https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-avtext-lrr-05>
>>>>=20
>>>> A diff from the previous version is available at:
>>>> https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-avtext-lrr-05 =
<https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-avtext-lrr-05>
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class=3D"">Thanks - and yes, I realise I=E2=80=99m nit picking :-)<div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Cheers,</div><div =
class=3D"">Colin</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D""><div><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D"">On =
8 May 2017, at 20:29, Jonathan Lennox &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:jonathan@vidyo.com" class=3D"">jonathan@vidyo.com</a>&gt; =
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D"">

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Thanks! I=E2=80=99ll fix that in the next revision, or with the RFC =
editor in the unlikely event there isn=E2=80=99t another one.
<div class=3D""><br class=3D"">
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<blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"">
<div class=3D"">On May 8, 2017, at 3:12 PM, Colin Perkins &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:csp@csperkins.org" class=3D"">csp@csperkins.org</a>&gt; =
wrote:</div>
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<div class=3D"">
<div style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; =
-webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D"">
Looks good to me (although RTCP expands to =E2=80=9CRTP Control =
Protocol=E2=80=9D not =E2=80=9CReal-Time Transport Control Protocol=E2=80=9D=
).
<div class=3D""><br class=3D"">
</div>
<div class=3D"">Cheers,</div>
<div class=3D"">Colin</div>
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<div class=3D"">On 8 May 2017, at 20:07, Jonathan Lennox &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:jonathan@vidyo.com" class=3D"">jonathan@vidyo.com</a>&gt; =
wrote:</div>
<br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline">
<div class=3D"">
<div style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; =
-webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D"">
<div class=3D"">This version addresses the editorial issues pointed out =
by Colin and&nbsp;<span style=3D"font-family: -webkit-system-font, =
'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=3D"">Zhenghui during =
WGLC. Thank you for your comments!</span></div>
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<blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"">
<div class=3D"">On May 8, 2017, at 3:06 PM, <a =
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internet-drafts@ietf.org</a> wrote:</div>
<br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline">
<div class=3D"">
<div class=3D""><br class=3D"">
A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts =
directories.<br class=3D"">
This draft is a work item of the Audio/Video Transport Extensions of the =
IETF.<br class=3D"">
<br class=3D"">
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Title =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;: The Layer =
Refresh Request (LRR) RTCP Feedback Message<br class=3D"">
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Authors =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;: Jonathan Lennox<br =
class=3D"">
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bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
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<span class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre"></span>Filename =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;: =
draft-ietf-avtext-lrr-05.txt<br class=3D"">
<span class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre"></span>Pages =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;: 14<br =
class=3D"">
<span class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre"></span>Date =
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2017-05-08<br class=3D"">
<br class=3D"">
Abstract:<br class=3D"">
&nbsp;&nbsp;This memo describes the RTCP Payload-Specific Feedback =
Message "Layer<br class=3D"">
&nbsp;&nbsp;Refresh Request" (LRR), which can be used to request a state =
refresh<br class=3D"">
&nbsp;&nbsp;of one or more substreams of a layered media stream. =
&nbsp;It also defines<br class=3D"">
&nbsp;&nbsp;its use with several RTP payloads for scalable media =
formats.<br class=3D"">
<br class=3D"">
<br class=3D"">
The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:<br class=3D"">
<a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-avtext-lrr/" =
class=3D"">https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-avtext-lrr/</a><br =
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There are also htmlized versions available at:<br class=3D"">
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Abstract


   This memo describes the RTCP Payload-Specific Feedback Message "Layer
   Refresh Request" (LRR), which can be used to request a state refresh
   of one or more substreams of a layered media stream.  It also defines
   its use with several RTP payloads for scalable media formats.




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Reviewer: Roni Even
Review result: Ready with Issues

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Document: draft-ietf-avtext-lrr-??
Reviewer: Roni Even
Review Date: 2017-05-31
IETF LC End Date: 2017-06-08
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Summary:
The document is ready with issues for a standard track RFC
Major issues:

Minor issues:

1. Can you specify both TTID and TLID in the same FCI.
2. What is the meaning of value 0 for TTID and TLID - TID or LID =0 in
frame marking draft means base layer if there is scalability.
     This relates to the previous question. 
3.  What would an FCI with both TTID and TLID equal 0 mean.

Nits/editorial comments: 

1. Section 3 "an Real-Time Transport Control Protocol" should be "a
Real...".
2. In section 3 " [RFC5104](Section 3.5.1)" there is a link to section
3.5.1 but it does not work.
3. In section 3.2 "(see section Section 2.1)" section appears twice.



