From nobody Sun Oct 29 06:32:54 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: crypto-panel@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: crypto-panel@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0BA413F444 for ; Sun, 29 Oct 2017 06:32:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.001 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=isode.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id iuKZONZ0lWeY for ; Sun, 29 Oct 2017 06:32:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from waldorf.isode.com (waldorf.isode.com [62.232.206.188]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B596013B13B for ; Sun, 29 Oct 2017 06:32:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1509283968; d=isode.com; s=june2016; i=@isode.com; bh=PLXzikWSdbVvHEAP8mOS6CGL35BvJrNwg0h7Hp2wGsI=; h=From:Sender:Reply-To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:To:Cc:MIME-Version: In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description; b=WPrmAOdaRgcdizh98trHko8BAccfhwM68V5H3TgEBZNgrK9DfB8iuYRp0Sb1t51HgWVjFE gshqg0NMvjvM+/2AjCpApWNoyne2WE+Fs0pdiTH0mOMmlCFlirP8p49WSu++PSlgO9DDx1 InDg8M528TmICVo2TgUKr57gorB0FpE=; Received: from [192.168.0.3] (cpc121086-nmal24-2-0-cust54.19-2.cable.virginm.net [77.97.145.55]) by waldorf.isode.com (submission channel) via TCP with ESMTPSA id ; Sun, 29 Oct 2017 13:32:47 +0000 To: crypto-panel@irtf.org From: Alexey Melnikov Message-ID: <59F5D882.30707@isode.com> Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2017 13:32:50 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Subject: [Crypto-panel] Request for review: draft-mcgrew-hash-sigs-08 X-BeenThere: crypto-panel@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2017 13:32:53 -0000 Dear Crypto Panel, CFRG Chairs would like to request review of before forwarding it to IRSG for final review and approval. Can we have some volunteer(s) please? Thank you, Kenny and Alexey From nobody Sun Oct 29 07:39:49 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: crypto-panel@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: crypto-panel@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A289213F791 for ; Sun, 29 Oct 2017 07:39:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.301 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.301 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=cs.tcd.ie Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ZCIS3pYe2e4w for ; Sun, 29 Oct 2017 07:39:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mercury.scss.tcd.ie (mercury.scss.tcd.ie [134.226.56.6]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6D5A113F55B for ; Sun, 29 Oct 2017 07:39:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mercury.scss.tcd.ie (Postfix) with ESMTP id A32FFBE4C; Sun, 29 Oct 2017 14:39:43 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at scss.tcd.ie Received: from mercury.scss.tcd.ie ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mercury.scss.tcd.ie [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wNfDf3mHC0Hw; Sun, 29 Oct 2017 14:39:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from [10.244.2.100] (95-45-153-252-dynamic.agg2.phb.bdt-fng.eircom.net [95.45.153.252]) by mercury.scss.tcd.ie (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0F694BE49; Sun, 29 Oct 2017 14:39:42 +0000 (GMT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cs.tcd.ie; s=mail; t=1509287982; bh=JM7NLQC2SXRSYIWs82SV+2C0qCe/UwfcsNgVr9YL7jk=; h=Subject:To:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=LHHmLEWY/HyY5SNPkDRNKaH1lCc2svNAdVG+NpN0NGCVXEZ0NndiAJSg0ASNcMCFK eyF+eXvreQo8iXhNp1YNW67ehpBTIMoJxTmzH87ft39yvIZzkjB8Jd25X80BqyUbiv gVmQzflZemT+q4E6xX0EwPiHvrhLxg/JLolx3S40= To: Alexey Melnikov , crypto-panel@irtf.org References: <59F5D882.30707@isode.com> From: Stephen Farrell Openpgp: id=D66EA7906F0B897FB2E97D582F3C8736805F8DA2; url= Message-ID: Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2017 14:39:41 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <59F5D882.30707@isode.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="8uR1dVDNttCjisooIKUrQ0VRkqKxAnRc4" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Crypto-panel] Request for review: draft-mcgrew-hash-sigs-08 X-BeenThere: crypto-panel@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2017 14:39:47 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --8uR1dVDNttCjisooIKUrQ0VRkqKxAnRc4 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="pNPWqE2NK1Tl2HwlinrIVOOw5sM3Kk4uA"; protected-headers="v1" From: Stephen Farrell To: Alexey Melnikov , crypto-panel@irtf.org Message-ID: Subject: Re: [Crypto-panel] Request for review: draft-mcgrew-hash-sigs-08 References: <59F5D882.30707@isode.com> In-Reply-To: <59F5D882.30707@isode.com> --pNPWqE2NK1Tl2HwlinrIVOOw5sM3Kk4uA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-GB Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hiya, On 29/10/17 13:32, Alexey Melnikov wrote: > Dear Crypto Panel, >=20 > CFRG Chairs would like to request review of > before > forwarding it to IRSG for final review and approval. >=20 > Can we have some volunteer(s) please? I'm willing to take a peek. But you may be better to put me at the end of the volunteer list - my only real knowledge here is what I learned from reviewing the xmss spec. But if you're stuck and/or think that's useful I could do it. S. >=20 > Thank you, > Kenny and Alexey >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Crypto-panel mailing list > Crypto-panel@irtf.org > https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/crypto-panel >=20 --pNPWqE2NK1Tl2HwlinrIVOOw5sM3Kk4uA-- --8uR1dVDNttCjisooIKUrQ0VRkqKxAnRc4 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJZ9egtAAoJEC88hzaAX42iBxMIAIpo0J8HHJIDhzDgATA6cnyZ l9s2zJuf9SuyWFJdPeXyy+Oc46+AgEdL4/VaPuksXRgb0hBL5gH5G6r522h4OMNh a6hjFYQVsopBdXQXUXBw2PhD4FRIjfVOh4RYsO2ZjWYiFZWkdPu38Wav0zwWQ/62 RICq7Dks9fUp+meNrDOu9yepBaFwh984E03VmRvBJcS1KDQPqiEtT1A9m0ZM+mbH 8dImTeLegtFJKVrWIvIU5QDGfZcEtZ5wpVTaF3/Jf/1XG4lwNpIOcbrUnJAmEu1k UvDbaaU1ggeSry5G37dnC0XnCPu7D9oEM3ITd2K/S01lwn3aY+KTdjh+FBrkPBQ= =DxUk -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --8uR1dVDNttCjisooIKUrQ0VRkqKxAnRc4-- From nobody Sun Oct 29 09:05:28 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: crypto-panel@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: crypto-panel@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F63413F57C for ; 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[212.179.202.11]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id z76sm24612637pfi.117.2017.10.29.09.16.44 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 29 Oct 2017 09:16:48 -0700 (PDT) To: "Paterson, Kenny" , "crypto-panel@irtf.org" Cc: "alexey.melnikov@isode.com" , "Stanislav V. Smyshlyaev" References: <150755980208.18384.2936406403472477741@ietfa.amsl.com> From: Yaron Sheffer Message-ID: <0c6efc8d-b50b-d9c1-bb3b-c0c7c02feb53@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2017 18:16:41 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Crypto-panel] [Cfrg] I-D Action: draft-irtf-cfrg-re-keying-08.txt X-BeenThere: crypto-panel@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2017 16:16:51 -0000 Hi Kenny, I can take this one, but it will be more than a few days. What is the time expectation? Thanks, Yaron On 29/10/17 18:08, Paterson, Kenny wrote: > Dear CFRG panel members, > > draft-irtf-cfrg-re-keying-08 > (https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-irtf-cfrg-re-keying-08) is ready for > panel review. > > Any volunteers to look at this one? > > (We don't expect too many more review requests for a while after this and > draft-mcgrew-hash-sigs.) > > Regards, > > Kenny > > On 09/10/2017 16:14, "Stanislav V. Smyshlyaev" wrote: > >> Dear colleagues, >> >> >> In Prague, we listed several todo's about our Re-keying draft; thanks to >> the efforts of the persons listed in the contributors and "thanks to" >> lists now we have a new version, addressing the comments and concerns >> that have been >> discussed earlier. >> There have been several updates of the draft, major changes from the July >> version (discussed at IETF 99 CFRG meeting) are the following: >> >> >> 1) New test examples have been added: external re-keying with a parallel >> construction based on AES-256, external re-keying with a serial >> construction based on SHA-256, OMAC-ACPKM-Master mode with AES-256, >> as agreed. >> 2) CCM-ACPKM and CCM-ACPKM-Master, OFB-ACPKM-Master modes have been >> removed from the document, as agreed. >> 3) “Key Hierarchy Construction” section has been added. >> 4) The more restrictive terminology for different types of keys has been >> introduced: "initial key", "section key" (data processing key in internal >> re-keying), "master key", "section key material", "subkey", >> "frame key" (data processing key in external re-keying). >> 5) The additional hash calculation for ICB value (if c!=32) has been >> removed from GCM-ACPKM and GCM-ACPKM-Master modes. >> >> >> The current version >> (https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-irtf-cfrg-re-keying-08) seems to take >> all concerns and considerations we've discussed (in Chicago, in Prague >> and in e-mails) into account – please let me know if we've missed >> something. If there won't be any objections, I think we should start >> thinking about moving to the review phase. >> >> >> Kindest regards, >> Stanislav >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 2017-10-09 17:36 GMT+03:00 : >> >> >> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts >> directories. >> This draft is a work item of the Crypto Forum RG of the IRTF. >> >> Title : Re-keying Mechanisms for Symmetric Keys >> Author : Stanislav Smyshlyaev >> Filename : draft-irtf-cfrg-re-keying-08.txt >> Pages : 49 >> Date : 2017-10-09 >> >> Abstract: >> A certain maximum amount of data can be safely encrypted when >> encryption is performed under a single key. This amount is called >> "key lifetime". This specification describes a variety of methods to >> increase the lifetime of symmetric keys. It provides external and >> internal re-keying mechanisms based on hash functions and on block >> ciphers, that can be used with modes of operations such as CTR, GCM, >> CBC, CFB and OMAC. >> >> >> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-irtf-cfrg-re-keying/ >> >> There are also htmlized versions available at: >> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-irtf-cfrg-re-keying-08 >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-irtf-cfrg-re-keying-08 >> >> A diff from the previous version is available at: >> https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-irtf-cfrg-re-keying-08 >> >> >> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of >> submission >> until the htmlized version and diff are available at >> tools.ietf.org . >> >> Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: >> ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Cfrg mailing list >> Cfrg@irtf.org >> https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/cfrg >> >> >> >> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Crypto-panel mailing list > Crypto-panel@irtf.org > https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/crypto-panel > From nobody Sun Oct 29 09:43:20 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: crypto-panel@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: crypto-panel@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 806C713F58E for ; Sun, 29 Oct 2017 09:43:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.91 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.91 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H5=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=rhul.onmicrosoft.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dI3LHa2bRSDW for ; Sun, 29 Oct 2017 09:43:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from EUR03-DB5-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-eopbgr40044.outbound.protection.outlook.com [40.107.4.44]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2B45113F57F for ; Sun, 29 Oct 2017 09:43:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rhul.onmicrosoft.com; s=selector1-rhul-ac-uk; h=From:Date:Subject:Message-ID:Content-Type:MIME-Version; bh=5oD5qJuLxAvKwbDI4jofytqz/xCqW+93r2DvxiX3s0g=; b=GbJ1irT5zLlXessij39CtQI367K5+7nb7YgS0ZXaec3ratFbbrDPsD+qlIaYKYSXBoris1DoKKbNKq9NoIkXn2i741PbJ7veSbf1KqV2n0oXNlSMsNcbHZvp0yM6P2vYnbRcqnCVRQCft+2bz8qNEZLs0nlfkT9h2voypNlJ3lc= Received: from AM4PR0301MB1906.eurprd03.prod.outlook.com (10.168.2.156) by AM4PR0301MB1907.eurprd03.prod.outlook.com (10.168.3.7) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA384_P256) id 15.20.178.6; Sun, 29 Oct 2017 16:43:13 +0000 Received: from AM4PR0301MB1906.eurprd03.prod.outlook.com ([fe80::adb1:d3e2:d068:a07]) by AM4PR0301MB1906.eurprd03.prod.outlook.com ([fe80::adb1:d3e2:d068:a07%13]) with mapi id 15.20.0178.012; Sun, 29 Oct 2017 16:43:13 +0000 From: "Paterson, Kenny" To: Yaron Sheffer , "crypto-panel@irtf.org" CC: "alexey.melnikov@isode.com" , "Stanislav V. 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[212.179.202.11]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id j1sm25302463pfj.108.2017.10.29.09.52.21 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 29 Oct 2017 09:52:24 -0700 (PDT) To: "Paterson, Kenny" , "crypto-panel@irtf.org" Cc: "alexey.melnikov@isode.com" , "Stanislav V. Smyshlyaev" References: <150755980208.18384.2936406403472477741@ietfa.amsl.com> <0c6efc8d-b50b-d9c1-bb3b-c0c7c02feb53@gmail.com> From: Yaron Sheffer Message-ID: Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2017 18:52:17 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Crypto-panel] [Cfrg] I-D Action: draft-irtf-cfrg-re-keying-08.txt X-BeenThere: crypto-panel@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2017 16:52:28 -0000 Sounds good, count me in. On 29/10/17 18:43, Paterson, Kenny wrote: > Hi Yaron, > > Thanks. > > A couple of weeks would be fine I think - the authors can't make any > changes now before IETF 100 anyway, because of the cutoff for new drafts. > > Cheers, > > Kenny > > On 29/10/2017 16:16, "Yaron Sheffer" wrote: > >> Hi Kenny, >> >> I can take this one, but it will be more than a few days. What is the >> time expectation? >> >> Thanks, >> Yaron >> >> On 29/10/17 18:08, Paterson, Kenny wrote: >>> Dear CFRG panel members, >>> >>> draft-irtf-cfrg-re-keying-08 >>> (https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-irtf-cfrg-re-keying-08) is ready for >>> panel review. >>> >>> Any volunteers to look at this one? >>> >>> (We don't expect too many more review requests for a while after this >>> and >>> draft-mcgrew-hash-sigs.) >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Kenny >>> >>> On 09/10/2017 16:14, "Stanislav V. Smyshlyaev" >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Dear colleagues, >>>> >>>> >>>> In Prague, we listed several todo's about our Re-keying draft; thanks >>>> to >>>> the efforts of the persons listed in the contributors and "thanks to" >>>> lists now we have a new version, addressing the comments and concerns >>>> that have been >>>> discussed earlier. >>>> There have been several updates of the draft, major changes from the >>>> July >>>> version (discussed at IETF 99 CFRG meeting) are the following: >>>> >>>> >>>> 1) New test examples have been added: external re-keying with a >>>> parallel >>>> construction based on AES-256, external re-keying with a serial >>>> construction based on SHA-256, OMAC-ACPKM-Master mode with AES-256, >>>> as agreed. >>>> 2) CCM-ACPKM and CCM-ACPKM-Master, OFB-ACPKM-Master modes have been >>>> removed from the document, as agreed. >>>> 3) “Key Hierarchy Construction” section has been added. >>>> 4) The more restrictive terminology for different types of keys has >>>> been >>>> introduced: "initial key", "section key" (data processing key in >>>> internal >>>> re-keying), "master key", "section key material", "subkey", >>>> "frame key" (data processing key in external re-keying). >>>> 5) The additional hash calculation for ICB value (if c!=32) has been >>>> removed from GCM-ACPKM and GCM-ACPKM-Master modes. >>>> >>>> >>>> The current version >>>> (https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-irtf-cfrg-re-keying-08) seems to >>>> take >>>> all concerns and considerations we've discussed (in Chicago, in Prague >>>> and in e-mails) into account – please let me know if we've missed >>>> something. If there won't be any objections, I think we should start >>>> thinking about moving to the review phase. >>>> >>>> >>>> Kindest regards, >>>> Stanislav >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> 2017-10-09 17:36 GMT+03:00 : >>>> >>>> >>>> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts >>>> directories. >>>> This draft is a work item of the Crypto Forum RG of the IRTF. >>>> >>>> Title : Re-keying Mechanisms for Symmetric Keys >>>> Author : Stanislav Smyshlyaev >>>> Filename : draft-irtf-cfrg-re-keying-08.txt >>>> Pages : 49 >>>> Date : 2017-10-09 >>>> >>>> Abstract: >>>> A certain maximum amount of data can be safely encrypted when >>>> encryption is performed under a single key. This amount is called >>>> "key lifetime". This specification describes a variety of methods >>>> to >>>> increase the lifetime of symmetric keys. It provides external and >>>> internal re-keying mechanisms based on hash functions and on block >>>> ciphers, that can be used with modes of operations such as CTR, GCM, >>>> CBC, CFB and OMAC. >>>> >>>> >>>> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: >>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-irtf-cfrg-re-keying/ >>>> >>>> There are also htmlized versions available at: >>>> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-irtf-cfrg-re-keying-08 >>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-irtf-cfrg-re-keying-08 >>>> >>>> A diff from the previous version is available at: >>>> https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-irtf-cfrg-re-keying-08 >>>> >>>> >>>> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of >>>> submission >>>> until the htmlized version and diff are available at >>>> tools.ietf.org . >>>> >>>> Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: >>>> ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Cfrg mailing list >>>> Cfrg@irtf.org >>>> https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/cfrg >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Crypto-panel mailing list >>> Crypto-panel@irtf.org >>> https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/crypto-panel >>> > From nobody Sun Oct 29 10:11:29 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: crypto-panel@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: crypto-panel@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62AC613F591 for ; 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Sun, 29 Oct 2017 14:56:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from a860b60074bd.home (pool-108-45-101-150.washdc.fios.verizon.net [108.45.101.150]) by mail.smeinc.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1BF3C30026A; Sun, 29 Oct 2017 14:56:53 -0400 (EDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 10.3 \(3273\)) From: Russ Housley In-Reply-To: <59F5D882.30707@isode.com> Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2017 14:56:52 -0400 Cc: crypto-panel@irtf.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <8725493E-3ACE-4B14-B47B-3A6692F12716@vigilsec.com> References: <59F5D882.30707@isode.com> To: Alexey Melnikov X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3273) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Crypto-panel] Request for review: draft-mcgrew-hash-sigs-08 X-BeenThere: crypto-panel@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2017 18:56:56 -0000 I have read it many times, and I already have my own I-D that depends = upon it. I think it deserves another set of eyes. Russ > On Oct 29, 2017, at 9:32 AM, Alexey Melnikov = wrote: >=20 > Dear Crypto Panel, >=20 > CFRG Chairs would like to request review of > before > forwarding it to IRSG for final review and approval. >=20 > Can we have some volunteer(s) please? >=20 > Thank you, > Kenny and Alexey From nobody Sun Oct 29 11:59:39 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: crypto-panel@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: crypto-panel@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CD9713FB1D for ; Sun, 29 Oct 2017 11:59:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id CcemS0mlL2wW for ; Sun, 29 Oct 2017 11:59:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.smeinc.net (mail.smeinc.net [209.135.209.11]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6AD9C13FB19 for ; Sun, 29 Oct 2017 11:59:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.smeinc.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2C5430057A for ; Sun, 29 Oct 2017 14:59:34 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mail.smeinc.net Received: from mail.smeinc.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.smeinc.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id JSR5zeJhvkCC for ; Sun, 29 Oct 2017 14:59:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from a860b60074bd.home (pool-108-45-101-150.washdc.fios.verizon.net [108.45.101.150]) by mail.smeinc.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2CD5530026A; Sun, 29 Oct 2017 14:59:32 -0400 (EDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 10.3 \(3273\)) From: Russ Housley In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2017 14:59:31 -0400 Cc: "crypto-panel@irtf.org" , Alexey Melnikov , "Stanislav V. Smyshlyaev" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <66B69DB8-0199-4A59-8563-738F718D72DB@vigilsec.com> References: <150755980208.18384.2936406403472477741@ietfa.amsl.com> To: Kenny Paterson X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3273) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Crypto-panel] [Cfrg] I-D Action: draft-irtf-cfrg-re-keying-08.txt X-BeenThere: crypto-panel@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2017 18:59:37 -0000 I have already read it and provided comments. My name was on an earlier = version. It deserves another set of eyes. Russ > On Oct 29, 2017, at 12:08 PM, Paterson, Kenny = wrote: >=20 > Dear CFRG panel members, >=20 > draft-irtf-cfrg-re-keying-08 > (https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-irtf-cfrg-re-keying-08) is ready = for > panel review.=20 >=20 > Any volunteers to look at this one? >=20 > (We don't expect too many more review requests for a while after this = and > draft-mcgrew-hash-sigs.) >=20 > Regards, >=20 > Kenny =20 >=20 > On 09/10/2017 16:14, "Stanislav V. Smyshlyaev" = wrote: >=20 >> Dear colleagues, >>=20 >>=20 >> In Prague, we listed several todo's about our Re-keying draft; thanks = to >> the efforts of the persons listed in the contributors and "thanks to" >> lists now we have a new version, addressing the comments and concerns >> that have been >> discussed earlier. >> There have been several updates of the draft, major changes from the = July >> version (discussed at IETF 99 CFRG meeting) are the following: >>=20 >>=20 >> 1) New test examples have been added: external re-keying with a = parallel >> construction based on AES-256, external re-keying with a serial >> construction based on SHA-256, OMAC-ACPKM-Master mode with AES-256, >> as agreed. >> 2) CCM-ACPKM and CCM-ACPKM-Master, OFB-ACPKM-Master modes have been >> removed from the document, as agreed. >> 3) =E2=80=9CKey Hierarchy Construction=E2=80=9D section has been = added. >> 4) The more restrictive terminology for different types of keys has = been >> introduced: "initial key", "section key" (data processing key in = internal >> re-keying), "master key", "section key material", "subkey", >> "frame key" (data processing key in external re-keying). >> 5) The additional hash calculation for ICB value (if c!=3D32) has = been >> removed from GCM-ACPKM and GCM-ACPKM-Master modes. >>=20 >>=20 >> The current version >> (https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-irtf-cfrg-re-keying-08) seems to = take >> all concerns and considerations we've discussed (in Chicago, in = Prague >> and in e-mails) into account =E2=80=93 please let me know if we've = missed >> something. If there won't be any objections, I think we should start >> thinking about moving to the review phase. >>=20 >>=20 >> Kindest regards, >> Stanislav >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> 2017-10-09 17:36 GMT+03:00 : >>=20 >>=20 >> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts >> directories. >> This draft is a work item of the Crypto Forum RG of the IRTF. >>=20 >> Title : Re-keying Mechanisms for Symmetric Keys >> Author : Stanislav Smyshlyaev >> Filename : draft-irtf-cfrg-re-keying-08.txt >> Pages : 49 >> Date : 2017-10-09 >>=20 >> Abstract: >> A certain maximum amount of data can be safely encrypted when >> encryption is performed under a single key. This amount is called >> "key lifetime". This specification describes a variety of methods = to >> increase the lifetime of symmetric keys. It provides external and >> internal re-keying mechanisms based on hash functions and on block >> ciphers, that can be used with modes of operations such as CTR, GCM, >> CBC, CFB and OMAC. >>=20 >>=20 >> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-irtf-cfrg-re-keying/ >>=20 >> There are also htmlized versions available at: >> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-irtf-cfrg-re-keying-08 >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-irtf-cfrg-re-keying-08 >>=20 >> A diff from the previous version is available at: >> https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-irtf-cfrg-re-keying-08 >>=20 >>=20 >> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of >> submission >> until the htmlized version and diff are available at >> tools.ietf.org . >>=20 >> Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: >> ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> Cfrg mailing list >> Cfrg@irtf.org >> https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/cfrg >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Crypto-panel mailing list > Crypto-panel@irtf.org > https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/crypto-panel From nobody Mon Oct 30 01:18:04 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: crypto-panel@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: crypto-panel@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 827EB13F7A7 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2017 01:18:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.199 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.199 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=uni-paderborn.de Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id mFtFJEHtKQW1 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2017 01:18:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.uni-paderborn.de (mail.uni-paderborn.de [131.234.142.9]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3283113F7A5 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2017 01:18:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=uni-paderborn.de; s=20170601; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type: In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Date:Message-ID:From:References:To:Subject:Sender: Reply-To:Cc:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From: Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help: List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=aTH5JuISOVK9zy90k1/bAPS0ujfXUVUlJbrIenI7SSs=; b=fmM/1EcJYiY5c33eJymRN5mp5M LUogyvO806rYENyIhebZXVG+Wql1onlhHvT1sWXIrH/cuyeqL/C8PxvHzRmHYqgZt4LJ3yZX5x3VX CJyxcmO9OX1n1hPVB6b2v+lgjH1rvPKiQQTkDpiqGApK0GD8RJ1ruAa0pMo/jMAVb1/Y=; To: crypto-panel@irtf.org References: <59F5D882.30707@isode.com> From: Tibor Jager Message-ID: Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2017 09:17:54 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.12; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <59F5D882.30707@isode.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IMT-Spam-Score: 0.0 () X-PMX-Version: 6.3.3.2656215, Antispam-Engine: 2.7.2.2107409, Antispam-Data: 2017.10.30.80916, AntiVirus-Engine: 5.43.0, AntiVirus-Data: 2017.10.30.5430000 X-IMT-Authenticated-Sender: uid=tjager,ou=People,o=upb,c=de Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Crypto-panel] Request for review: draft-mcgrew-hash-sigs-08 X-BeenThere: crypto-panel@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2017 08:18:02 -0000 Hi Alexey and Kenny, I can have a look at this, too. Cheers, Tibor On 29/10/2017 14:32, Alexey Melnikov wrote: > Dear Crypto Panel, > > CFRG Chairs would like to request review of > before > forwarding it to IRSG for final review and approval. > > Can we have some volunteer(s) please? > > Thank you, > Kenny and Alexey > > _______________________________________________ > Crypto-panel mailing list > Crypto-panel@irtf.org > https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/crypto-panel > From nobody Mon Oct 30 02:54:23 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: crypto-panel@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: crypto-panel@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B504E13F8A2 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2017 02:54:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.919 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.919 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); 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