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The cut-off for submitting WG meeting requests for IETF-95 is 19 February. =
The question has been asked more than once with no response - have our chai=
rs submitted a meeting request? Do they intend to?

Scott


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Hi Scott, all.

Now that our charter is progressing, we intend to ask for a meeting slot =
in Buenos Aires.
Jim and I are teaming up next friday to discuss a possible agenda and =
request a meeting slot.
In the mean time, if people want to propose agenda items already, please =
let the chairs know.
We intend to request a 2 hour slot, and will solicit for speakers after =
next friday if none have volunteered.

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Op 2 feb. 2016, om 13:33 heeft Hollenbeck, Scott =
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> The cut-off for submitting WG meeting requests for IETF-95 is 19 =
February. The question has been asked more than once with no response - =
have our chairs submitted a meeting request? Do they intend to?
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> Scott
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Barry Leiba has entered the following ballot position for
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This is a rechartering of the eppext working group, to merge in RDAP
follow-on work from the former "weirds" working group.  The eppext group
will be closed when this charter is approved, and the eppext and weirds
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It's been about a month -- I've let this go too long.  Not having
heard follow-ups, I'm going to declare this version ready, and I'll
proceed with the approval.

Barry

On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 9:05 PM, Barry Leiba <barryleiba@computer.org> wrote:
> Gustavo says...
>> Simon, Barry, Russ,
>> Thank you for your feedback on draft-ietf-eppext-tmch-smd version 03.
>>
>> I uploaded version 04
>> (https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-eppext-tmch-smd-04) of the I-D. I
>> think that this version addresses your concerns.
>>
>> Your feedback is welcomed and appreciated.
>
> I like the changes, and I'm actually going to wait for Simon and Russ
> to re-review.  So Simon and Russ, in addition to "welcomed and
> appreciated", I'll add "hoped for".
>
> Thanks,
> Barry
>
>> On 12/7/15, 11:52, "barryleiba@gmail.com on behalf of Barry Leiba"
>> <barryleiba@gmail.com on behalf of barryleiba@computer.org> wrote:
>>
>>>> I-D: <draft-ietf-eppext-tmch-smd-03.txt>
>>>> ID Tracker URL:
>>>>https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-eppext-tmch-smd/
>>>>
>>>> IETF Last Call has ended, and the state has been changed to
>>>> Waiting for AD Go-Ahead.
>>>
>>>During last call I saw a Gen-ART review from Russ Housley and a SecDir
>>>review from Simon Josefsson.  I saw no responses to either, so I'm
>>>leaving this in the "Waiting for AD Go-Ahead" state pending responses
>>>to those reviews and addressing of the issues raised.
>>>
>>>For easy reference...
>>>Gen-ART review:
>>>http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/gen-art/current/msg12584.html
>>>SecDir review:
>>>http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/secdir/current/msg06248.html
>>>
>>>Barry, ART AD
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> It's been about a month -- I've let this go too long.  Not having
> heard follow-ups, I'm going to declare this version ready, and I'll
> proceed with the approval.

Sorry, I mean "proceed with the processing" -- it still has to go on a telechat.

Barry

> On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 9:05 PM, Barry Leiba <barryleiba@computer.org> wrote:
>> Gustavo says...
>>> Simon, Barry, Russ,
>>> Thank you for your feedback on draft-ietf-eppext-tmch-smd version 03.
>>>
>>> I uploaded version 04
>>> (https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-eppext-tmch-smd-04) of the I-D. I
>>> think that this version addresses your concerns.
>>>
>>> Your feedback is welcomed and appreciated.
>>
>> I like the changes, and I'm actually going to wait for Simon and Russ
>> to re-review.  So Simon and Russ, in addition to "welcomed and
>> appreciated", I'll add "hoped for".
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Barry
>>
>>> On 12/7/15, 11:52, "barryleiba@gmail.com on behalf of Barry Leiba"
>>> <barryleiba@gmail.com on behalf of barryleiba@computer.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> I-D: <draft-ietf-eppext-tmch-smd-03.txt>
>>>>> ID Tracker URL:
>>>>>https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-eppext-tmch-smd/
>>>>>
>>>>> IETF Last Call has ended, and the state has been changed to
>>>>> Waiting for AD Go-Ahead.
>>>>
>>>>During last call I saw a Gen-ART review from Russ Housley and a SecDir
>>>>review from Simon Josefsson.  I saw no responses to either, so I'm
>>>>leaving this in the "Waiting for AD Go-Ahead" state pending responses
>>>>to those reviews and addressing of the issues raised.
>>>>
>>>>For easy reference...
>>>>Gen-ART review:
>>>>http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/gen-art/current/msg12584.html
>>>>SecDir review:
>>>>http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/secdir/current/msg06248.html
>>>>
>>>>Barry, ART AD
>>
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Many of you are probably aware of the proposed new working group for the 
IETF: Registration Protocols Extensions (regext).  Certainly the EPPEXT 
working group is aware because the charter was developed there.  I have 
attached the charter that has been submitted to the IESG for review for 
your convenience.

This message is to alert everyone that the IETF Secretariat has been 
asked to create the new “regext” mailing list and to automatically 
subscribe all current subscribers of both the “weirds” and 
“eppext” to it.

If you do not wish to be a part of this work going forward please just 
unsubscribe when you get the welcome message.

The next step will be for the IESG to review the proposed charter and 
make a decision as to whether or not to proceed using its usual process.

If the charter is approved and the working group is to be created then 
both the “weirds” and the “eppext” mailing lists will be aliased 
to point to the “regext” mailing list.  The old mailing lists will 
be removed but their respective archives will remain.

Thanks!

Jim and Antoin
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Registration Protocols Extensions (REGEXT) Working Group

The Extensible Provisioning Protocol (EPP, Standard 69) is the
standard domain name provisioning protocol for top-level domain name
registries.  To avoid many separate EPP extensions that provide
the same functions, it's important to coordinate and standardize EPP
extensions.

The EPP Extensions (EPPEXT) working group completed its first goal of
creating an IANA registry of EPP extensions.  The registration process
of the registry is documented in RFC7451.  Extensions may be
registered for informational purposes as long as there is a published
specification that has been reviewed by a designated expert.

The Registration Data Access Protocol (RDAP, RFCs 7480-7484) is the
proposed standard for retrieving registration metadata from both
domain name and Regional Internet Registries.  To ensure interoperable
implementations it's important to coordinate and standardize
extensions and profiles to be used by registries.

Extensions in both cases that seek the status of Internet standard are
subject to more thorough review and open discussion within the IETF.

In addition, commonality may be discovered in related extensions,
especially EPP extensions listed on the EPP extension registry, for
which it would makes sense to merge them into a single standard
extension everybody agrees on.

The REGEXT working group is the home of the coordination effort for
standards track extensions.  The selection of extensions for standards
track shall incorporate the following guidelines.

1. Proprietary documented extensions and individual submissions of
informational or experimental EPP extensions will follow the expert
review process as described in RFC7451 for inclusion in the EPP
extensions registry. These documents will not be part of the REGEXT
working group work or milestones. The working group may discuss or
advise on these documents.

2. Extensions that seek standards track status can be suggested for WG
adoption.  If accepted by the working group then the development of
the standard may proceed.

3. The working group will exist as long as there is an extension
seeking standards track status.  When there are no more proposals
for a standards track extension the working group will either close or
go dormant according to IETF rules.  The mailing list will remain open
and available for the use of the expert review process as described in
RFC7451.

The working group will also identify the requirements for a
registration protocol where a third-party DNS provider is involved.
These requirements will be documented in an Informational RFC.

The working group will focus initially on the backlog of EPP and RDAP
extensions.


MILESTONES

January 2016 - Submit for publication
    draft-ietf-eppext-keyrelay
    draft-ietf-eppext-tmch-smd
    draft-ietf-eppext-launchphase
    draft-ietf-eppext-tmch-func-spec

March 2016 - Submit for publication
    draft-gould-epp-rdap-status-mapping
    draft-brown-epp-fees
    draft-zhou-eppext-reseller
    draft-zhou-eppext-reseller-mapping

June 2016 - Submit for publication
    draft-gould-eppext-verificationcode
    draft-xie-eppext-nv-mapping
    draft-kong-eppext-bundling-registration

October 2016 - Submit for publication
    draft-gould-change-poll
    draft-gould-allocation-token

February 2017 - Submit for publication
    draft-ietf-eppext-idnmap
    draft-gould-idn-table
    draft-wilcox-cira-idn-eppext

June 2017 - Submit for publication an informational RFC with
    requirements for a registration protocol for third-party DNS
    providers

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Rik,

We=92re discussing this.
Formally the provreg WG was closed, but since the mailinglist was still =
used before EPPEXT was formed by lack of another channel to discuss EPP, =
I guess we should have migrated the provreg mailinglist when forming =
EPPEXT.
I=92m CC=92ing the provreg mailinglist to see if there are any =
objections, otherwise we will aks the secretariat to migrate provreg as =
well as the WG suggested.
Any objections from the provreg mailinglist subscribers if we alias the =
provreg mailinglist to the new to be formed REGEXT mailinglist to =
discuss EPP?

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Op 4 feb. 2016, om 09:58 heeft Rik Ribbers <rik.ribbers@sidn.nl> het =
volgende geschreven:

> Hello Jim,
>=20
> And what about the provreg mailing list. I recall that we decided to =
move this mailinglist also to the regex one.
>=20
> Gr,
> Rik
>=20
>> On 03 Feb 2016, at 23:36, James Galvin <galvin@elistx.com> wrote:
>>=20
>> Many of you are probably aware of the proposed new working group for =
the IETF: Registration Protocols Extensions (regext).  Certainly the =
EPPEXT working group is aware because the charter was developed there.  =
I have attached the charter that has been submitted to the IESG for =
review for your convenience.
>>=20
>> This message is to alert everyone that the IETF Secretariat has been =
asked to create the new =93regext=94 mailing list and to automatically =
subscribe all current subscribers of both the =93weirds=94 and =93eppext=94=
 to it.
>>=20
>> If you do not wish to be a part of this work going forward please =
just unsubscribe when you get the welcome message.
>>=20
>> The next step will be for the IESG to review the proposed charter and =
make a decision as to whether or not to proceed using its usual process.
>>=20
>> If the charter is approved and the working group is to be created =
then both the =93weirds=94 and the =93eppext=94 mailing lists will be =
aliased to point to the =93regext=94 mailing list.  The old mailing =
lists will be removed but their respective archives will remain.
>>=20
>> Thanks!
>>=20
>> Jim and Antoin
>> proposed co-chairs of the regext working group
>> <charter.txt>_______________________________________________
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: provreg [mailto:provreg-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Antoin
> Verschuren
> Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2016 5:16 AM
> To: Rik Ribbers
> Cc: EPP Extensions WG; provreg@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [provreg] [eppext] auto subscription to the new
> regext@ietf.org
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> Rik,
>=20
> We're discussing this.
> Formally the provreg WG was closed, but since the mailinglist was still
> used before EPPEXT was formed by lack of another channel to discuss
> EPP, I guess we should have migrated the provreg mailinglist when
> forming EPPEXT.
> I'm CC'ing the provreg mailinglist to see if there are any objections,
> otherwise we will aks the secretariat to migrate provreg as well as the
> WG suggested.
> Any objections from the provreg mailinglist subscribers if we alias the
> provreg mailinglist to the new to be formed REGEXT mailinglist to
> discuss EPP?

No objections from me.

Scott


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Greetings. According to 
<https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-eppext-keyrelay/>, this 
draft has been stuck with a significant DISCUSS for well over a month. 
How can the WG help get this WG document moving again?

--Paul Hoffman


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> -----Original Message-----
> From: EppExt [mailto:eppext-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Paul Hoffman
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> Greetings. According to
> <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-eppext-keyrelay/>, this
> draft has been stuck with a significant DISCUSS for well over a month.
> How can the WG help get this WG document moving again?

The WG is waiting for an updated IPR declaration from Verisign. I'm still t=
rying to make that happen and unfortunately I don't yet know when it will b=
e done. I will report back when I know for sure.

Scott


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Hello Paul,

Quoting from the IESG evaluation record:

The IPR declaration says that license terms will be available
"later." As things stand, I don't understand how the WG can have
made an informed decision in that case. I looked at the archive
and saw essentially no discussion, other than the announcement.

The document is currently waiting for an update of the IPR disclosure with =
the license terms, before it can move along. Depending on the updated text =
(that needs to be provided by Verisign) the next steps need to be determine=
d.

Scott has indicated that the legal department of Verisign will update the I=
PR disclosure a.s.a.p.

@Scott: Any progress to report?

Hope this clarifies things.

Gr,
Rik

On 04 Feb 2016, at 16:07, Paul Hoffman <paul.hoffman@vpnc.org<mailto:paul.h=
offman@vpnc.org>> wrote:

Greetings. According to <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-eppext=
-keyrelay/>, this draft has been stuck with a significant DISCUSS for well =
over a month. How can the WG help get


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</span></div>
The document is currently waiting for an update of the IPR disclosure&nbsp;=
with the&nbsp;license terms, before it can move along. Depending on the upd=
ated text (that needs to be provided by Verisign) the next steps need to be=
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thx for the update

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>> draft has been stuck with a significant DISCUSS for well over a month.
>> How can the WG help get this WG document moving again?
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> The WG is waiting for an updated IPR declaration from Verisign. I'm still=
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I would like to propose 15 minutes on the agenda to discuss the mailing lis=
t thread http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/eppext/current/msg00918.html,=
 that is associated with the approach for the check command and response in=
 draft-brown-epp-fees-06.

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On Feb 5, 2016, at 3:32 AM, Linlin Zhou <zhoulinlin@cnnic.cn<mailto:zhoulin=
lin@cnnic.cn>> wrote:

Dear chairs,
I'd like to ask for a 10-15 minutes time slot to give a quick update on res=
eller drafts if it is possible. The 03-version will be updated before IETF =
meeting. Thanks.

Regards,
________________________________
Linlin Zhou

From: Antoin Verschuren<mailto:ietf@antoin.nl>
Date: 2016-02-03 00:08
To: eppext@ietf.org<mailto:eppext@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [eppext] WG Meeting at IETF-95?
Hi Scott, all.

Now that our charter is progressing, we intend to ask for a meeting slot in=
 Buenos Aires.
Jim and I are teaming up next friday to discuss a possible agenda and reque=
st a meeting slot.
In the mean time, if people want to propose agenda items already, please le=
t the chairs know.
We intend to request a 2 hour slot, and will solicit for speakers after nex=
t friday if none have volunteered.

- --
Antoin Verschuren

Tweevoren 6, 5672 SB Nuenen, NL
M: +31 6 37682392






Op 2 feb. 2016, om 13:33 heeft Hollenbeck, Scott <shollenbeck@verisign.com<=
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> The cut-off for submitting WG meeting requests for IETF-95 is 19 February=
. The question has been asked more than once with no response - have our ch=
airs submitted a meeting request? Do they intend to?
>
> Scott
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<span class=3D""></span>Dear chairs,</div>
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I'd like to ask for a 10-15 minutes time slot to give a quick update on res=
eller drafts if it is possible. The 03-version will be updated before IETF =
meeting. Thanks.</div>
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<div class=3D""><b class=3D"">From:</b>&nbsp;<a href=3D"mailto:ietf@antoin.=
nl" class=3D"">Antoin Verschuren</a></div>
<div class=3D""><b class=3D"">Date:</b>&nbsp;2016-02-03&nbsp;00:08</div>
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<div class=3D"">Hi Scott, all.</div>
<div class=3D"">&nbsp;</div>
<div class=3D"">Now that our charter is progressing, we intend to ask for a=
 meeting slot in Buenos Aires.</div>
<div class=3D"">Jim and I are teaming up next friday to discuss a possible =
agenda and request a meeting slot.</div>
<div class=3D"">In the mean time, if people want to propose agenda items al=
ready, please let the chairs know.</div>
<div class=3D"">We intend to request a 2 hour slot, and will solicit for sp=
eakers after next friday if none have volunteered.</div>
<div class=3D"">&nbsp;</div>
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<div class=3D"">Antoin Verschuren</div>
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Dear colleagues,

I would like to propose 20 minutes on the agenda to discuss:
* draft-lozano-rdap-nameservers-sharing-name-00
* draft-lozano-ietf-eppext-registrar-expiration-date-00.html




Regards,
Gustavo

From:  EppExt <eppext-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of "Gould, James"
<JGould@verisign.com>
Date:  Friday, February 5, 2016 at 10:52
To:  Linlin Zhou <zhoulinlin@cnnic.cn>
Cc:  Antoin Verschuren <ietf@antoin.nl>, "eppext@ietf.org" <eppext@ietf.org=
>
Subject:  Re: [eppext] WG Meeting at IETF-95?

> I would like to propose 15 minutes on the agenda to discuss the mailing l=
ist
> thread http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/eppext/current/msg00918.html,=
 that
> is associated with the approach for the check command and response in
> draft-brown-epp-fees-06.
> =8B
>=20
>=20
>=20
> JG
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> James Gould
> Distinguished Engineer
> jgould@Verisign.com
>=20
> 703-948-3271
> 12061 Bluemont Way
> Reston, VA 20190
>=20
> VerisignInc.com <http://VerisignInc.com>
>=20
>> On Feb 5, 2016, at 3:32 AM, Linlin Zhou <zhoulinlin@cnnic.cn> wrote:
>>=20
>> Dear chairs,
>> I'd like to ask for a 10-15 minutes time slot to give a quick update on
>> reseller drafts if it is possible. The 03-version will be updated before=
 IETF
>> meeting. Thanks.
>>=20
>> Regards,
>>=20
>> Linlin Zhou
>>> =20
>>> From: Antoin Verschuren <mailto:ietf@antoin.nl>
>>> Date: 2016-02-03 00:08
>>> To: eppext@ietf.org
>>> Subject: Re: [eppext] WG Meeting at IETF-95?
>>> Hi Scott, all.
>>> =20
>>> Now that our charter is progressing, we intend to ask for a meeting slo=
t in
>>> Buenos Aires.
>>> Jim and I are teaming up next friday to discuss a possible agenda and
>>> request a meeting slot.
>>> In the mean time, if people want to propose agenda items already, pleas=
e let
>>> the chairs know.
>>> We intend to request a 2 hour slot, and will solicit for speakers after=
 next
>>> friday if none have volunteered.
>>> =20
>>> - --
>>> Antoin Verschuren
>>> =20
>>> Tweevoren 6, 5672 SB Nuenen, NL
>>> M: +31 6 37682392
>>> =20
>>> =20
>>> =20
>>> =20
>>> =20
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" style=3D"font-size: 12px;">Regards,</font></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font fac=
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t"><span style=3D"font-weight:bold">From: </span> EppExt &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:e=
ppext-bounces@ietf.org">eppext-bounces@ietf.org</a>&gt; on behalf of "Gould,=
 James" &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:JGould@verisign.com">JGould@verisign.com</a>&gt;=
<br><span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Date: </span> Friday, February 5, 2016 at=
 10:52<br><span style=3D"font-weight:bold">To: </span> Linlin Zhou &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:zhoulinlin@cnnic.cn">zhoulinlin@cnnic.cn</a>&gt;<br><span style=3D"fo=
nt-weight:bold">Cc: </span> Antoin Verschuren &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ietf@antoi=
n.nl">ietf@antoin.nl</a>&gt;, "<a href=3D"mailto:eppext@ietf.org">eppext@ietf.=
org</a>" &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:eppext@ietf.org">eppext@ietf.org</a>&gt;<br><sp=
an style=3D"font-weight:bold">Subject: </span> Re: [eppext] WG Meeting at IETF=
-95?<br></div><div><br></div><blockquote id=3D"MAC_OUTLOOK_ATTRIBUTION_BLOCKQU=
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I would like to propose 15 minutes on the agenda to discuss the mailing lis=
t thread&nbsp;<a href=3D"http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/eppext/current/m=
sg00918.html" class=3D"">http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/eppext/current/m=
sg00918.html</a>, that is associated
 with the approach for the check command and response in draft-brown-epp-fe=
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: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; fon=
t-size: 14px;" class=3D""><font size=3D"2" class=3D""><font face=3D"Helvetica,Verdan=
a,Arial" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt;" class=3D""><b class=3D"">James
 Gould<br class=3D""></b></span></font></font></font><font size=3D"2" style=3D"co=
lor: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: no=
rmal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align=
: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows=
: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-family: Cali=
bri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><font face=3D"Helvetica, Verdana, Arial" class=3D""><=
span style=3D"font-size: 10pt;" class=3D""><font color=3D"#6B6D71" class=3D"">Distin=
guished
 Engineer<br class=3D""><a href=3D"jgould@Verisign.com" class=3D"">jgould@Verisig=
n.com</a><br class=3D""><br class=3D"">
703-948-3271<br class=3D"">
12061 Bluemont Way<br class=3D"">
Reston, VA 20190<br class=3D""><br class=3D""></font><font color=3D"#006AAA" clas=
s=3D""><a href=3D"http://VerisignInc.com" class=3D"">VerisignInc.com</a></font></s=
pan></font></font></span></span></div><br class=3D""><div><blockquote type=3D"ci=
te" class=3D""><div class=3D"">On Feb 5, 2016, at 3:32 AM, Linlin Zhou &lt;<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:zhoulinlin@cnnic.cn" class=3D"">zhoulinlin@cnnic.cn</a>&gt; wrote:<=
/div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div style=3D"font-fa=
mily: Verdana; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; fo=
nt-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: 21px; orphans: auto;=
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mal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=
=3D""><span class=3D""></span>Dear chairs,</div><div style=3D"font-family: Verdana=
; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: no=
rmal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: 21px; orphans: auto; text-align: =
start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: =
auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D"">
I'd like to ask for a 10-15 minutes time slot to give a quick update on res=
eller drafts if it is possible. The 03-version will be updated before IETF m=
eeting. Thanks.</div><div style=3D"font-family: Verdana; font-size: 14px; font=
-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: n=
ormal; line-height: 21px; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px=
; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px=
; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div style=3D"f=
ont-family: Verdana; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: norm=
al; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: 21px; orphans:=
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e: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"=
 class=3D"">
Regards,</div><hr size=3D"1" align=3D"left" style=3D"font-family: Verdana; font-s=
ize: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; le=
tter-spacing: normal; line-height: 21px; orphans: auto; text-align: start; t=
ext-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; wo=
rd-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; width: 210px; height: 1px;"=
 class=3D""><div style=3D"font-family: Verdana; font-size: 14px; font-style: nor=
mal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line=
-height: 21px; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-tran=
sform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-t=
ext-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""><span class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 10px; fo=
nt-family: verdana; font-size: 10pt;" class=3D""><div class=3D"">Linlin Zhou</di=
v></div></span></div><blockquote style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;=
 margin-left: 0.5em; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 14px; font-style: norm=
al; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-=
height: 21px; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-trans=
form: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-te=
xt-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""><div class=3D"">&nbsp;</div><div style=3D"border=
-style: solid none none; border-top-color: rgb(181, 196, 223); border-top-wi=
dth: 1pt; padding: 3pt 0cm 0cm;" class=3D""><div style=3D"padding: 8px; font-siz=
e: 12px; font-family: tahoma; background-color: rgb(239, 239, 239);" class=3D"=
"><div class=3D""><b class=3D"">From:</b>&nbsp;<a href=3D"mailto:ietf@antoin.nl" c=
lass=3D"">Antoin Verschuren</a></div><div class=3D""><b class=3D"">Date:</b>&nbsp;=
2016-02-03&nbsp;00:08</div><div class=3D""><b class=3D"">To:</b>&nbsp;<a href=3D"m=
ailto:eppext@ietf.org" class=3D"">eppext@ietf.org</a></div><div class=3D""><b cl=
ass=3D"">Subject:</b>&nbsp;Re: [eppext] WG Meeting at IETF-95?</div></div></di=
v><div class=3D""><div class=3D"">Hi Scott, all.</div><div class=3D"">&nbsp;</div>=
<div class=3D"">Now that our charter is progressing, we intend to ask for a me=
eting slot in Buenos Aires.</div><div class=3D"">Jim and I are teaming up next=
 friday to discuss a possible agenda and request a meeting slot.</div><div c=
lass=3D"">In the mean time, if people want to propose agenda items already, pl=
ease let the chairs know.</div><div class=3D"">We intend to request a 2 hour s=
lot, and will solicit for speakers after next friday if none have volunteere=
d.</div><div class=3D"">&nbsp;</div><div class=3D"">- --</div><div class=3D"">Anto=
in Verschuren</div><div class=3D"">&nbsp;</div><div class=3D"">Tweevoren 6, 5672=
 SB Nuenen, NL</div><div class=3D"">M: +31 6 37682392</div><div class=3D"">&nbsp=
;</div><div class=3D"">&nbsp;</div><div class=3D"">&nbsp;</div><div class=3D"">&nb=
sp;</div><div class=3D"">&nbsp;</div><div class=3D"">&nbsp;</div><div class=3D"">O=
p 2 feb. 2016, om 13:33 heeft Hollenbeck, Scott &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:shollenb=
eck@verisign.com" class=3D"">shollenbeck@verisign.com</a>&gt; het volgende ges=
chreven:</div><div class=3D"">&nbsp;</div><div class=3D"">&gt; The cut-off for s=
ubmitting WG meeting requests for IETF-95 is 19 February. The question has b=
een asked more than once with no response - have our chairs submitted a meet=
ing request? Do they intend to?</div><div class=3D"">&gt;<span class=3D"Apple-co=
nverted-space">&nbsp;</span></div><div class=3D"">&gt; Scott</div><div class=3D"=
">&gt;<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></div><div class=3D"">&=
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The phrase "Sunrise Period" may be a well-known term of art, but the
meaning isn't obvious in the Abstract. It's explained well with one
sentence in the Introduction - perhaps that sentence could be included in
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Hi all,

This is a request for agenda items for IETF 95 in Buenos Aires.
So far we have:

Jim Gould - 15 minutes on brown fees
http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/eppext/current/msg00918.html

Linlin Zhou - 10-15 on reseller drafts

Gustavo Lozano - 20 minutes on:
* draft-lozano-rdap-nameservers-sharing-name-00
* draft-lozano-ietf-eppext-registrar-expiration-date-00.html

We will also add an agenda item for the current status of drafts in the =
EPPEXT charter, and we would welcome some discusion on future adoption =
of new work.
If you have any additional agenda items to discuss, please let the =
chairs know.


Looking at the current agenda, we can fill one hour, but we would like =
to request a 2 hour slot as we hope for more discussion and additional =
agenda items.

Jim and I decided to postpone our formal meeting request till the =
deadline next week.
The reason for this is that our new REGEXT charter is on the IESG =
telechat agenda for next thursday, and if approved, we could schedule a =
REGEXT meeting in stead of an EPPEXT meeting.
We would like the opinion of the WG if this will not be confusing.

A final question is on conflicts with other meeting sessions to avoid.
So far, we request to avoid: dnsops, dnssd, dprive, dbound, dane, lager, =
and homenet.
Are there any other sessions the members of this group wish to avoid a =
conflict with?

Regards,

Jim and Antoin

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Section 7 points to [ICANN-TMCH] for signature validation policy
(I think, not quite sure). I did a quick scan (so I might have
missed it) of that document and did not find any mention of
security or signature validation, so what is an implementer
supposed to do, over and above just checking the cryptographic
correctness of the XMLDSIG? Note1: I'm not asking that all of
the details of how to construct a PKI for this functionality be
documented here, somewhere else is fine, but it doesn't seem to
be in [ICANN-TMCH] that I can see, so I don't know what I'd have
to implement, that'd get interop. Note2: I'm also not asking for
a US-DoD-scale super-huge PKI or RPKI to be specified here,
something simpler should work.


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- Please see the secdir review [1] which raises a number of
significant points (including the DISCUSS above) and which
hasn't as far as I've seen gotten a response (apologies if I
missed that).

   [1]
https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/secdir/current/msg06248.html

- "precudle" nice:-)



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*** Substantive Comments ***

- General: I share Stephen's and Russ's concern about the lack of
signature policies either here or in [ICANN-TMCH]. In particular, what
does it mean for a mark to be signed?

- 2.1: What is the semantic difference between <mark:name> and
<mark:org>? If the latter represents an organization, should we assume
the former does not? Or more specifically, does <mark:name> represent a
person? Along the same lines,  <mark:addr> is described in terms of an
organization address. What is only <mark:name> is present?

- 2.2: <mark:id> must be globally unique in relation to the repository? I
_think_ this means that it must uniquely define a mark in relation to a
repository. But that can also be interpreted to mean that no two mark
elements can contain the same ID/repository combination. (This language
occurs several times)

-- <mark:treatyOrStatute>: Can you clarify the meaning of "country of the
ruling"? (as opposed to the country of protection)

- 2.3: 
-- <smd:signedMark> is described as the fragment of xml that is signed.
But the text suggests the <signature> element is a child of
<smd:signedMark>. Is the signature itself expected to be signed? If only
part of <smd:signedMark> is signed, which parts?

-- Do <smd:notBefore> and <smd:notAfter> refer to the validity of the
signature, or the mark itself?

-- Why is XML canonicalization a SHOULD rather than a MUST? Why might one
choose not to use it? What can go wrong if you don't use it? (If the
answer is that the signature validation might fail, them maybe this
should be a MUST?)

-- Does the reasoning for RSA-SHA256 being a SHOULD rather than a MUST
imply that there are algorithms that MUST NOT be used?

*** Editorial Comments ***

- Abstract:
It would be helpful to see a sentence describing what sort of "marks"
this draft discusses in the abstract.

-2.2, <mark:treatyOrStatute>, <mark:refNum>:
I am not sure the intent of "number of the mark of the treaty or
statute." Does the treaty or statute itself have a mark? A number? Or is
just a reference number for the described mark?

-6: Section numbers would be helpful for the references back into the
body.



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In general I agree with Ben's comments about <mark:treatyOrStatute> and
<mark:court>. I don't understand why these elements contain a smattering
of the same child elements of <mark:trademark> (holder, contact, etc.),
rather than just containing a <mark:trademark> as a child element in its
entirety, and then adding in the additional treaty- or court-specific
elements that are necessary. The way its specified in the document makes
it hard to understand whether the child elements of
<mark:treatyOrStatute> and <mark:court> refer to the treaty/court ruling
at issue, or to the trademark.



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Here is Tim Wicinski's OPS DIR review.
General Summary: Ready with nits

In doing this write up after I wrote my comments, I went and researched
the mail archive, and I found Russ Housley's very succinct Gen-Art
review:

https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/gen-art/jBbrcEzrRlSPWGcjEVdvTO41ckQ

Specifically the Appendix in the wrong place, the insertion of copyrights
in Sections 3.1 and 3.2

Additionally, in Section 2 "Object Description" there are elements for
the objects that are marked OPTIONAL or MUST. However, there are many
which are not defined either way.  The "assumption" is they are a MUST.
If this is true perhaps some text at the beginning of the definitions

    "Unless otherwise specified, any element defined is a MUST".



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> Specifically the Appendix in the wrong place

What Appendix?

> Additionally, in Section 2 "Object Description" there are elements for
> the objects that are marked OPTIONAL or MUST. However, there are many
> which are not defined either way.  The "assumption" is they are a MUST.
> If this is true perhaps some text at the beginning of the definitions
>
>     "Unless otherwise specified, any element defined is a MUST".

This second paragraph in Section 2 doesn't cover it?:

   This section defines some elements as OPTIONAL, the elements not
   defined as OPTIONAL are REQUIRED to be included in the appropriate
   objects.

-- 
Barry


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Hi Barry,

You're right. The comments were for version 3.
All is good now.

Regards, Benoit
>> Specifically the Appendix in the wrong place
> What Appendix?
>
>> Additionally, in Section 2 "Object Description" there are elements for
>> the objects that are marked OPTIONAL or MUST. However, there are many
>> which are not defined either way.  The "assumption" is they are a MUST.
>> If this is true perhaps some text at the beginning of the definitions
>>
>>      "Unless otherwise specified, any element defined is a MUST".
> This second paragraph in Section 2 doesn't cover it?:
>
>     This section defines some elements as OPTIONAL, the elements not
>     defined as OPTIONAL are REQUIRED to be included in the appropriate
>     objects.
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Gustavo, we need some discussion here to resolve Stephen's issues
(which other ADs are agreeing with), and also Ben's comments and any
others that are out there.  Can you please respond soon?

Barry

On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 11:10 AM, Stephen Farrell
<stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie> wrote:
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> Section 7 points to [ICANN-TMCH] for signature validation policy
> (I think, not quite sure). I did a quick scan (so I might have
> missed it) of that document and did not find any mention of
> security or signature validation, so what is an implementer
> supposed to do, over and above just checking the cryptographic
> correctness of the XMLDSIG? Note1: I'm not asking that all of
> the details of how to construct a PKI for this functionality be
> documented here, somewhere else is fine, but it doesn't seem to
> be in [ICANN-TMCH] that I can see, so I don't know what I'd have
> to implement, that'd get interop. Note2: I'm also not asking for
> a US-DoD-scale super-huge PKI or RPKI to be specified here,
> something simpler should work.
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>
> - Please see the secdir review [1] which raises a number of
> significant points (including the DISCUSS above) and which
> hasn't as far as I've seen gotten a response (apologies if I
> missed that).
>
>    [1]
> https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/secdir/current/msg06248.html
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> - "precudle" nice:-)
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Thank you for your review Stephen,

Regarding the DISCUSS portion of your email:

Short story: in the case of the gTLD space, the information regarding the
PKI used for validating SMDs is defined here:
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-eppext-tmch-func-spec-00 (sections:
4.1, 5.1.1.3, 5.1.2.3, 5.2.1, 5.2.2, 5.2.3.1, 5.2.3.2, 5.2.4, 5.2.5, 6.2,
6.4).

Long story: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-eppext-tmch-smd-04 (SMD
draft) was conceived as a draft defining a mapping of the common elements
found in trademark data. The design goal is that the SMD draft
specification could be used by any entity (e.g. ccTLDs, gTLDs, trademark
validators <-> distribution channel) for mapping the tradermak data. The
organizations using the digitally signed portion of the spec will need to
define a PKI and the policy for that particular use-case scenario. In the
case of new gTLDs, the [ICANN-TMCH]
(<http://newgtlds.icann.org/en/about/trademark-clearinghouse/rpm-requiremen
ts-30sep13-en.pdf>) is the document (included by reference in the new gTLD
contracts) defining the policy / technical requirements. The document
[ICANN-TMCH] links to
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-eppext-tmch-func-spec-00 where the
technical requirements are specified. For example, a ccTLD may use this
spec with different policy / technical requirements, therefore
[ICANN-TMCH] / draft-ietf-eppext-tmch-func-spec-00 is just how it was done
in the gTLD space. I included [ICANN-TMCH] to provide the context for the
creation of this spec, an as an example of how it was done for new gTLDs.

Regarding the COMMENT portion of your email:

- Please see the secdir review [1] which raises a number of
significant points (including the DISCUSS above) and which
hasn't as far as I've seen gotten a response (apologies if I
missed that).

   [1]
https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/secdir/current/msg06248.html

Gustavo - I think that I resolved all the issues raised in [1] in version
04 of the draft.

- "precudle" nice:-)


Gustavo - I will fix this :).

Regards,

Gustavo

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>DISCUSS:
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>
>
>Section 7 points to [ICANN-TMCH] for signature validation policy
>(I think, not quite sure). I did a quick scan (so I might have
>missed it) of that document and did not find any mention of
>security or signature validation, so what is an implementer
>supposed to do, over and above just checking the cryptographic
>correctness of the XMLDSIG? Note1: I'm not asking that all of
>the details of how to construct a PKI for this functionality be
>documented here, somewhere else is fine, but it doesn't seem to
>be in [ICANN-TMCH] that I can see, so I don't know what I'd have
>to implement, that'd get interop. Note2: I'm also not asking for
>a US-DoD-scale super-huge PKI or RPKI to be specified here,
>something simpler should work.
>
>
>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>COMMENT:
>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>- Please see the secdir review [1] which raises a number of
>significant points (including the DISCUSS above) and which
>hasn't as far as I've seen gotten a response (apologies if I
>missed that).
>
>   [1]
>https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/secdir/current/msg06248.html
>
>- "precudle" nice:-)
>
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Thank you for your review Spencer,

I think that your comment make sense.

@Barry, at this point of the evaluation process: is it a good idea to
upload a new version of the draft with minor updates?, or, should I work
with the RFC editor to make minor changes?



Regards,
Gustavo

On 2/9/16, 10:15, "Spencer Dawkins" <spencerdawkins.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:

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>The phrase "Sunrise Period" may be a well-known term of art, but the
>meaning isn't obvious in the Abstract. It's explained well with one
>sentence in the Introduction - perhaps that sentence could be included in
>the abstract as well?
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> @Barry, at this point of the evaluation process: is it a good idea to
> upload a new version of the draft with minor updates?, or, should I work
> with the RFC editor to make minor changes?

You'll likely want to do a new version to address Stephen's and Ben's
comments, in addition to these and any others, and version numbers are
cheap and plentiful.  I'd rather give the RFC Editor our final version
for their editing, and not specifically plan to make changes later.

Barry


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Thank you for the follow-up Barry,

I replied today to Stephen=B9s comments, see
https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/eppext/cNizylFVKdWXu20OKKlq5gIA1KM

Hopefully my response clarifies the intention of the reference to the
[ICANN-TMCH] document.

Regards,
Gustavo

On 2/18/16, 07:17, "barryleiba@gmail.com on behalf of Barry Leiba"
<barryleiba@gmail.com on behalf of barryleiba@computer.org> wrote:

>Gustavo, we need some discussion here to resolve Stephen's issues
>(which other ADs are agreeing with), and also Ben's comments and any
>others that are out there.  Can you please respond soon?
>
>Barry
>
>On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 11:10 AM, Stephen Farrell
><stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie> wrote:
>> Stephen Farrell has entered the following ballot position for
>> draft-ietf-eppext-tmch-smd-04: Discuss
>>
>> When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all
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>> introductory paragraph, however.)
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>>
>> Please refer to=20
>>https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html
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>>
>>
>> The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here:
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-eppext-tmch-smd/
>>
>>
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> DISCUSS:
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>
>> Section 7 points to [ICANN-TMCH] for signature validation policy
>> (I think, not quite sure). I did a quick scan (so I might have
>> missed it) of that document and did not find any mention of
>> security or signature validation, so what is an implementer
>> supposed to do, over and above just checking the cryptographic
>> correctness of the XMLDSIG? Note1: I'm not asking that all of
>> the details of how to construct a PKI for this functionality be
>> documented here, somewhere else is fine, but it doesn't seem to
>> be in [ICANN-TMCH] that I can see, so I don't know what I'd have
>> to implement, that'd get interop. Note2: I'm also not asking for
>> a US-DoD-scale super-huge PKI or RPKI to be specified here,
>> something simpler should work.
>>
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> COMMENT:
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>
>> - Please see the secdir review [1] which raises a number of
>> significant points (including the DISCUSS above) and which
>> hasn't as far as I've seen gotten a response (apologies if I
>> missed that).
>>
>>    [1]
>> https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/secdir/current/msg06248.html
>>
>> - "precudle" nice:-)
>>
>>

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Abstract:
   Domain Name Registries (DNRs) may operate in special modes for
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   One of those special modes of operation is the Sunrise Period.  The
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Thank you Ben,

Comments inline.

Regards,
Gustavo

On 2/16/16, 14:21, "Ben Campbell" <ben@nostrum.com> wrote:

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>
>
>
>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>COMMENT:
>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>*** Substantive Comments ***
>
>- General: I share Stephen's and Russ's concern about the lack of
>signature policies either here or in [ICANN-TMCH]. In particular, what
>does it mean for a mark to be signed?

Gustavo - I replied to Stephen=B9s comment,
reply here:=20
https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/eppext/cNizylFVKdWXu20OKKlq5gIA1KM


>
>- 2.1: What is the semantic difference between <mark:name> and
><mark:org>? If the latter represents an organization, should we assume
>the former does not? Or more specifically, does <mark:name> represent a
>person?=20

Gustavo - This has been fixed in version 05 of the I-D, <mark:name> is
used when the=20
holder is an individual, and <mark:org> when the holder is an organization.


>Along the same lines,  <mark:addr> is described in terms of an
>organization address. What is only <mark:name> is present?


Gustavo - This has been fixed in version 05, see
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-eppext-tmch-smd-05


The address element as described in the definition of <mark:addr> refers
to the address of the holder.




>
>- 2.2: <mark:id> must be globally unique in relation to the repository? I
>_think_ this means that it must uniquely define a mark in relation to a
>repository. But that can also be interpreted to mean that no two mark
>elements can contain the same ID/repository combination. (This language
>occurs several times)

Gustavo - Clarified in version 05 of the I-D.


>
>-- <mark:treatyOrStatute>: Can you clarify the meaning of "country of the
>ruling"? (as opposed to the country of protection)

Gustavo - Clarified in version 05 of the I-D.


>
>- 2.3:=20
>-- <smd:signedMark> is described as the fragment of xml that is signed.
>But the text suggests the <signature> element is a child of
><smd:signedMark>. Is the signature itself expected to be signed? If only
>part of <smd:signedMark> is signed, which parts?

Gustavo - Clarified in version 05 of the I-D.


>
>-- Do <smd:notBefore> and <smd:notAfter> refer to the validity of the
>signature, or the mark itself?

Gustavo - It refers to the validity of the SMD. The idea is to have
fields that indicate the validity period for policy purposes without
signaling
that the signature is invalid (e.g. Expires Property of XMLDISG).


>
>-- Why is XML canonicalization a SHOULD rather than a MUST? Why might one
>choose not to use it? What can go wrong if you don't use it? (If the
>answer is that the signature validation might fail, them maybe this
>should be a MUST?)

Gustavo - The SHOULD was changed to a MUST. See version 5 of the I-D.


>
>-- Does the reasoning for RSA-SHA256 being a SHOULD rather than a MUST
>imply that there are algorithms that MUST NOT be used?

Gustavo - I did not understand this comment.  I think that
algorithms that MUST NOT be used are globally deprecated by specific I-Ds.



>
>*** Editorial Comments ***
>
>- Abstract:
>It would be helpful to see a sentence describing what sort of "marks"
>this draft discusses in the abstract.

Gustavo - text added in version 5 of the I-D.


>
>-2.2, <mark:treatyOrStatute>, <mark:refNum>:
>I am not sure the intent of "number of the mark of the treaty or
>statute." Does the treaty or statute itself have a mark? A number? Or is
>just a reference number for the described mark?

Gustavo - Clarified in version 5 of the I-D.


>
>-6: Section numbers would be helpful for the references back into the
>body.
>

Gustavo - I don=B9t want to convert the lists to sections, because the diff
would show large portions of the draft as different, potentially creating
confusion on the readers of the I-D.

>


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Thank you Alissa,

Comments inline.

Regards,
Gustavo

On 2/17/16, 13:46, "Alissa Cooper" <alissa@cooperw.in> wrote:

>Alissa Cooper has entered the following ballot position for
>draft-ietf-eppext-tmch-smd-04: No Objection
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>In general I agree with Ben's comments about <mark:treatyOrStatute> and
><mark:court>. I don't understand why these elements contain a smattering
>of the same child elements of <mark:trademark> (holder, contact, etc.),
>rather than just containing a <mark:trademark> as a child element in its
>entirety, and then adding in the additional treaty- or court-specific
>elements that are necessary. The way its specified in the document makes
>it hard to understand whether the child elements of
><mark:treatyOrStatute> and <mark:court> refer to the treaty/court ruling
>at issue, or to the trademark.
>

I am not a lawyer, but during the design of the spec, trademark experts
participated. Trademark is a type of the three types of marks described in
the document. There are some elements that are shared between the three
types of marks, and the first internal spec contemplated another object to
capture the shared elements, but considering that an SMD may contain
several marks, it started to get too complex. We decided that the current
design was easier to implement / understand.

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