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(8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id v52EwS9T019533; Fri, 2 Jun 2017 15:58:28 +0100 (BST) Received: from BGB01XUD1011.national.core.bbc.co.uk ([10.161.14.9]) by BGB01XI1011.national.core.bbc.co.uk ([10.161.14.15]) with mapi id 14.03.0319.002; Fri, 2 Jun 2017 15:58:27 +0100 From: John Fletcher To: Thomas Edwards , "payload@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: Significant Differences Between draft-ietf-payload-rtp-ancillary-08 and -09 Thread-Index: AQHSyrZiGvSczZmxek+HC40CeN/Tn6H1hE3ogBs1/wCAARF8Tw== Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2017 14:58:26 +0000 Message-ID: References: <142B2248-5244-4179-8AFD-A5BF7CCD91ED@fox.com> , <4F83049C-5668-4462-8B42-32DA7BB10338@fox.com> In-Reply-To: <4F83049C-5668-4462-8B42-32DA7BB10338@fox.com> Accept-Language: en-GB, en-US Content-Language: en-GB X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [172.19.161.213] x-exclaimer-md-config: c91d45b2-6e10-4209-9543-d9970fac71b7 x-tm-as-product-ver: SMEX-11.0.0.4255-8.100.1062-23106.007 x-tm-as-result: No--8.344900-0.000000-31 x-tm-as-user-approved-sender: Yes x-tm-as-user-blocked-sender: No Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_B1D49063AD5FBD4688F3EEDEC68B2017C384887Bbgb01xud1011_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [payload] Significant Differences Between draft-ietf-payload-rtp-ancillary-08 and -09 X-BeenThere: payload@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Audio/Video Transport Payloads working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2017 14:58:33 -0000 --_000_B1D49063AD5FBD4688F3EEDEC68B2017C384887Bbgb01xud1011_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable That would be fine by me. John ________________________________ From: payload [payload-bounces@ietf.org] on behalf of Thomas Edwards [Thoma= s.Edwards@fox.com] Sent: 02 June 2017 06:39 To: payload@ietf.org Subject: Re: [payload] Significant Differences Between draft-ietf-payload-r= tp-ancillary-08 and -09 =93Network byte order=94 is still a handy way to identify the data transmis= sion order specified in several parts of the document. How about: =93The term "network byte order" in the payload format SHALL refer to the D= ata Transmission Order as defined in Appendix B of RFC 791.=94 -Thomas -- Thomas Edwards VP Engineering & Development FOX Networks Engineering and Operations thomas.edwards@fox.com Phone: +1.310.369.6696 10201 West Pico Blvd. Los Angeles, CA 90035 From: John Fletcher Date: Monday, May 15, 2017 at 9:02 AM To: Thomas Edwards , "payload@ietf.org" Subject: RE: Significant Differences Between draft-ietf-payload-rtp-ancilla= ry-08 and -09 Section 2 says "Use of the term "network byte order" in the payload format = shall be as defined in RFC 791" but there is no definition of "network byte= order" in RFC 791. I suggest saying "The data transmission order SHALL be as defined in RFC 7= 91 Appenix B" and removing all references to "network byte order". --_000_B1D49063AD5FBD4688F3EEDEC68B2017C384887Bbgb01xud1011_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
That would be fine by me.
John
From: payload [payload-bounces@ietf.org] = on behalf of Thomas Edwards [Thomas.Edwards@fox.com]
Sent: 02 June 2017 06:39
To: payload@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [payload] Significant Differences Between draft-ietf-pa= yload-rtp-ancillary-08 and -09

=93Network byte ord= er=94 is still a handy way to identify the data transmission order specifie= d in several parts of the document.

 

How about: <= /p>

 

=93The term "n= etwork byte order" in the payload format SHALL refer to the Data Trans= mission Order as defined in Appendix B of RFC 791.=94

 

-Thomas

 

--&nbs= p;

Thomas= Edwards

VP Eng= ineering & Development

FOX Ne= tworks Engineering and Operations

thomas= .edwards@fox.com

Phone:= +1.310.369.6696

10201 = West Pico Blvd.

Los An= geles, CA 90035

 

From: John Fletcher <John.Fletcher@bbc.co.uk>
Date: Monday, May 15, 2017 at 9:02 AM
To: Thomas Edwards <Thomas.Edwards@fox.com>, "payload@iet= f.org" <payload@ietf.org>
Subject: RE: Significant Differences Between draft-ietf-payload-rtp-= ancillary-08 and -09

 

Section 2 says "Use of th= e term "network byte order" in the payload format shall be as def= ined in RFC 791" but there is no definition of "network byte order" in RFC 791.
I suggest saying "The data transmission order SHALL be as defined in&n= bsp; RFC 791 Appenix B" and removing all references to "network b= yte order".

 

--_000_B1D49063AD5FBD4688F3EEDEC68B2017C384887Bbgb01xud1011_-- From nobody Fri Jun 2 08:01:53 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: payload@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: payload@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D08A4128D3E for ; Fri, 2 Jun 2017 08:01:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.201 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.201 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2_gpd4dDmcXv for ; Fri, 2 Jun 2017 08:01:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailout0.telhc.bbc.co.uk (mailout0.telhc.bbc.co.uk [132.185.161.179]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 69486128B8D for ; Fri, 2 Jun 2017 08:01:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from BGB01XI1009.national.core.bbc.co.uk (bgb01xi1009.national.core.bbc.co.uk [10.161.14.23]) by mailout0.telhc.bbc.co.uk (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id v52F1jMA019714; Fri, 2 Jun 2017 16:01:45 +0100 (BST) Received: from BGB01XUD1011.national.core.bbc.co.uk ([10.161.14.9]) by BGB01XI1009.national.core.bbc.co.uk ([10.161.14.23]) with mapi id 14.03.0319.002; Fri, 2 Jun 2017 16:00:34 +0100 From: John Fletcher To: Thomas Edwards , "payload@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: Significant Differences Between draft-ietf-payload-rtp-ancillary-08 and -09 Thread-Index: AQHSyrZiGvSczZmxek+HC40CeN/Tn6H1hE3ogBs/dICAAQivjw== Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2017 15:00:33 +0000 Message-ID: References: <142B2248-5244-4179-8AFD-A5BF7CCD91ED@fox.com> , <50BE717B-FE5A-4083-881A-838F42598F84@fox.com> In-Reply-To: <50BE717B-FE5A-4083-881A-838F42598F84@fox.com> Accept-Language: en-GB, en-US Content-Language: en-GB X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [172.19.161.213] x-exclaimer-md-config: c91d45b2-6e10-4209-9543-d9970fac71b7 x-tm-as-product-ver: SMEX-11.0.0.4255-8.100.1062-23108.000 x-tm-as-result: No--4.826200-0.000000-31 x-tm-as-user-approved-sender: Yes x-tm-as-user-blocked-sender: No Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_B1D49063AD5FBD4688F3EEDEC68B2017C384888Dbgb01xud1011_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [payload] Significant Differences Between draft-ietf-payload-rtp-ancillary-08 and -09 X-BeenThere: payload@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Audio/Video Transport Payloads working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2017 15:01:51 -0000 --_000_B1D49063AD5FBD4688F3EEDEC68B2017C384888Dbgb01xud1011_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable OK, that is fine by me. ________________________________ From: payload [payload-bounces@ietf.org] on behalf of Thomas Edwards [Thoma= s.Edwards@fox.com] Sent: 02 June 2017 07:12 To: payload@ietf.org Subject: Re: [payload] Significant Differences Between draft-ietf-payload-r= tp-ancillary-08 and -09 For =93Required Parameters=94 and =93Optional Parameters=94, we are obliged= to follow the Registration Template of RFC 6838. -Thomas -- Thomas Edwards VP Engineering & Development FOX Networks Engineering and Operations thomas.edwards@fox.com Phone: +1.310.369.6696 10201 West Pico Blvd. Los Angeles, CA 90035 From: John Fletcher Date: Monday, May 15, 2017 at 9:02 AM To: Thomas Edwards , "payload@ietf.org" Subject: RE: Significant Differences Between draft-ietf-payload-rtp-ancilla= ry-08 and -09 "Required parameters" --_000_B1D49063AD5FBD4688F3EEDEC68B2017C384888Dbgb01xud1011_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
OK, that is fine by me.
From: payload [payload-bounces@ietf.org] = on behalf of Thomas Edwards [Thomas.Edwards@fox.com]
Sent: 02 June 2017 07:12
To: payload@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [payload] Significant Differences Between draft-ietf-pa= yload-rtp-ancillary-08 and -09

-- 

Thomas Edwards

VP Engineering & Development

FOX Networks Engineering and Operations

thomas.edwards@fox.com

Phone: +1.310.369.6696

10201 West Pico Blvd.

Los Angeles, CA 90035

= From: John Fletcher <John= .Fletcher@bbc.co.uk>
Date: Monday, May 15, 2017 at 9:02 AM
To: Thomas Edwards <Thomas.Edwards@fox.com>, "payload@iet= f.org" <payload@ietf.org>
Subject: RE: Significant Differences Between draft-ietf-payload-rtp-= ancillary-08 and -09

 

"Required parameters"

--_000_B1D49063AD5FBD4688F3EEDEC68B2017C384888Dbgb01xud1011_-- From nobody Sat Jun 10 21:36:12 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: payload@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: payload@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 178BD126C7A for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2017 21:36:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.221 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.221 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id eCuQZ7D2fMDe for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2017 21:36:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lhrrgout.huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [194.213.3.17]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2CD17126B72 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2017 21:36:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 172.18.7.190 (EHLO lhreml701-cah.china.huawei.com) ([172.18.7.190]) by lhrrg01-dlp.huawei.com (MOS 4.3.7-GA FastPath queued) with ESMTP id DOV95770; Sun, 11 Jun 2017 04:36:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from DGGEMM405-HUB.china.huawei.com (10.3.20.213) by lhreml701-cah.china.huawei.com (10.201.108.42) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.301.0; Sun, 11 Jun 2017 05:36:05 +0100 Received: from DGGEMM506-MBX.china.huawei.com ([169.254.3.49]) by DGGEMM405-HUB.china.huawei.com ([10.3.20.213]) with mapi id 14.03.0301.000; Sun, 11 Jun 2017 12:36:00 +0800 From: Roni Even To: "payload@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: Meeting in IETF99 Thread-Index: AdLibBLZ6lNlmrcCTfCxKrqYMYXJxA== Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2017 04:35:59 +0000 Message-ID: <6E58094ECC8D8344914996DAD28F1CCD7D059C@DGGEMM506-MBX.china.huawei.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.200.202.55] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_6E58094ECC8D8344914996DAD28F1CCD7D059CDGGEMM506MBXchina_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected X-Mirapoint-Virus-RAPID-Raw: score=unknown(0), refid=str=0001.0A0B0202.593CC8B7.0080, ss=1, re=0.000, recu=0.000, reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0, ip=169.254.3.49, so=2013-06-18 04:22:30, dmn=2013-03-21 17:37:32 X-Mirapoint-Loop-Id: 9a9b3669fd154a646fda2006c259a600 Archived-At: Subject: [payload] Meeting in IETF99 X-BeenThere: payload@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Audio/Video Transport Payloads working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2017 04:36:11 -0000 --_000_6E58094ECC8D8344914996DAD28F1CCD7D059CDGGEMM506MBXchina_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, The Payload WG will not have a session at the IETF99 meeting Thanks Roni Even Payload WG co-chair --_000_6E58094ECC8D8344914996DAD28F1CCD7D059CDGGEMM506MBXchina_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi,

The Payload WG will not have a session at the IETF99= meeting

Thanks

Roni Even

Payload WG co-chair

--_000_6E58094ECC8D8344914996DAD28F1CCD7D059CDGGEMM506MBXchina_-- From nobody Thu Jun 15 23:16:58 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: payload@ietf.org Delivered-To: payload@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C16A120724; Thu, 15 Jun 2017 23:16:52 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: payload@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.54.1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <149759381206.11371.9912495557875557695@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2017 23:16:52 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [payload] I-D Action: draft-ietf-payload-rtp-ancillary-10.txt X-BeenThere: payload@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Audio/Video Transport Payloads working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2017 06:16:52 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Audio/Video Transport Payloads of the IETF. Title : RTP Payload for SMPTE ST 291 Ancillary Data Author : Thomas G. Edwards Filename : draft-ietf-payload-rtp-ancillary-10.txt Pages : 18 Date : 2017-06-15 Abstract: This memo describes a real-time transport protocol (RTP) payload format for the Society of Motion Picture and Television Engineers (SMPTE) Ancillary data, as defined by SMPTE ST 291-1. SMPTE Ancillary data is generally used along with professional video formats to carry a range of ancillary data types, including time code, Closed Captioning, and the Active Format Description (AFD). The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-payload-rtp-ancillary/ There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-payload-rtp-ancillary-10 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-payload-rtp-ancillary-10 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-payload-rtp-ancillary-10 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Mon Jun 19 03:32:38 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: payload@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: payload@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F2351294CC for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2017 03:32:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.201 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.201 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8-ZwfkB_VL7o for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2017 03:32:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailout1.telhc.bbc.co.uk (mailout1.telhc.bbc.co.uk [132.185.161.180]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AAE86129459 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2017 03:32:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from BGB01XI1008.national.core.bbc.co.uk (bgb01xi1008.national.core.bbc.co.uk [10.161.14.22]) by mailout1.telhc.bbc.co.uk (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id v5JAWQtb021229 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2017 11:32:26 +0100 (BST) Received: from BGB01XI1004.national.core.bbc.co.uk (10.184.50.54) by BGB01XI1008.national.core.bbc.co.uk (10.161.14.22) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.319.2; Mon, 19 Jun 2017 11:32:26 +0100 Received: from BGB01XUD1011.national.core.bbc.co.uk ([10.161.14.9]) by BGB01XI1004.national.core.bbc.co.uk ([10.184.50.54]) with mapi id 14.03.0319.002; Mon, 19 Jun 2017 11:32:25 +0100 From: John Fletcher To: "payload@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [payload] I-D Action: draft-ietf-payload-rtp-ancillary-10.txt Thread-Index: AQHS5mgv2uywX48nMkSxmXzoTk1TcKIr/7JZ Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2017 10:32:24 +0000 Message-ID: References: <149759381206.11371.9912495557875557695@ietfa.amsl.com> In-Reply-To: <149759381206.11371.9912495557875557695@ietfa.amsl.com> Accept-Language: en-GB, en-US Content-Language: en-GB X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [172.19.161.213] x-exclaimer-md-config: 1cd3ac1c-62e5-43f2-8404-6b688271c769 X-TM-AS-Product-Ver: SMEX-11.0.0.4255-8.100.1062-23140.005 X-TM-AS-Result: No--8.928300-0.000000-31 X-TM-AS-User-Approved-Sender: Yes X-TM-AS-User-Blocked-Sender: No Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-EXCLAIMER-MD-CONFIG: c91d45b2-6e10-4209-9543-d9970fac71b7 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [payload] I-D Action: draft-ietf-payload-rtp-ancillary-10.txt X-BeenThere: payload@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Audio/Video Transport Payloads working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2017 10:32:37 -0000 This version looks good to me. The version 9 document was reviewed by an S= DI expert in SMPTE and the latest version includes changes suggested by tha= t expert. The normative word "optional" isn't capitalised but no big deal. John Fletcher ________________________________________ From: payload [payload-bounces@ietf.org] on behalf of internet-drafts@ietf.= org [internet-drafts@ietf.org] Sent: 16 June 2017 07:16 To: i-d-announce@ietf.org Cc: payload@ietf.org Subject: [payload] I-D Action: draft-ietf-payload-rtp-ancillary-10.txt A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies. This draft is a work item of the Audio/Video Transport Payloads of the IETF= . Title : RTP Payload for SMPTE ST 291 Ancillary Data Author : Thomas G. Edwards Filename : draft-ietf-payload-rtp-ancillary-10.txt Pages : 18 Date : 2017-06-15 Abstract: This memo describes a real-time transport protocol (RTP) payload format for the Society of Motion Picture and Television Engineers (SMPTE) Ancillary data, as defined by SMPTE ST 291-1. SMPTE Ancillary data is generally used along with professional video formats to carry a range of ancillary data types, including time code, Closed Captioning, and the Active Format Description (AFD). The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-payload-rtp-ancillary/ There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-payload-rtp-ancillary-10 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-payload-rtp-ancillary-10 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-payload-rtp-ancillary-10 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submissio= n until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ _______________________________________________ payload mailing list payload@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/payload ----------------------------- http://www.bbc.co.uk This e-mail (and any attachments) is confidential and may contain personal views which are not the views of the BBC unless specif= ically stated. 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