From nobody Mon Jul 3 11:36:40 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: payload@ietf.org Delivered-To: payload@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61C8913170C; Mon, 3 Jul 2017 11:36:28 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: payload@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.55.2 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <149910698837.22825.6733746506777626057@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 03 Jul 2017 11:36:28 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [payload] I-D Action: draft-ietf-payload-flexible-fec-scheme-05.txt X-BeenThere: payload@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Audio/Video Transport Payloads working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Jul 2017 18:36:28 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Audio/Video Transport Payloads of the IETF. Title : RTP Payload Format for Flexible Forward Error Correction (FEC) Authors : Varun Singh Ali Begen Mo Zanaty Giridhar Mandyam Filename : draft-ietf-payload-flexible-fec-scheme-05.txt Pages : 38 Date : 2017-07-03 Abstract: This document defines new RTP payload formats for the Forward Error Correction (FEC) packets that are generated by the non-interleaved and interleaved parity codes from a source media encapsulated in RTP. These parity codes are systematic codes, where a number of repair symbols are generated from a set of source symbols. These repair symbols are sent in a repair flow separate from the source flow that carries the source symbols. The non-interleaved and interleaved parity codes which are defined in this specification offer a good protection against random and bursty packet losses, respectively, at a cost of decent complexity. Moreover, alternate FEC codes may be used with the payload formats presented. The RTP payload formats that are defined in this document address the scalability issues experienced with the earlier specifications including RFC 2733, RFC 5109 and SMPTE 2022-1, and offer several improvements. Due to these changes, the new payload formats are not backward compatible with the earlier specifications, but endpoints that do not implement the scheme can still work by simply ignoring the FEC packets. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-payload-flexible-fec-scheme/ There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-payload-flexible-fec-scheme-05 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-payload-flexible-fec-scheme-05 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-payload-flexible-fec-scheme-05 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Mon Jul 3 14:45:26 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: payload@ietf.org Delivered-To: payload@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02CD412EBF3; Mon, 3 Jul 2017 14:45:18 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: payload@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.55.2 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <149911831797.22754.15206699209063516596@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 03 Jul 2017 14:45:18 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [payload] I-D Action: draft-ietf-payload-vp9-04.txt X-BeenThere: payload@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Audio/Video Transport Payloads working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Jul 2017 21:45:18 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Audio/Video Transport Payloads of the IETF. Title : RTP Payload Format for VP9 Video Authors : Justin Uberti Stefan Holmer Magnus Flodman Jonathan Lennox Danny Hong Filename : draft-ietf-payload-vp9-04.txt Pages : 22 Date : 2017-07-03 Abstract: This memo describes an RTP payload format for the VP9 video codec. The payload format has wide applicability, as it supports applications from low bit-rate peer-to-peer usage, to high bit-rate video conferences. It includes provisions for temporal and spatial scalability. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-payload-vp9/ There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-payload-vp9-04 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-payload-vp9-04 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-payload-vp9-04 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Mon Jul 3 14:52:17 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: payload@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: payload@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E627A129AAD for ; Mon, 3 Jul 2017 14:52:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.1 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB=1.5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id KSQQnoY4W_Ia for ; Mon, 3 Jul 2017 14:52:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx0b-00198e01.pphosted.com (mx0a-00198e01.pphosted.com [67.231.149.202]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 78428131460 for ; 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Mon, 3 Jul 2017 16:33:21 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: The IESG To: "IETF-Announce" X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.55.2 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk CC: ben@nostrum.com, payload-chairs@ietf.org, draft-ietf-payload-rtp-ancillary@ietf.org, payload@ietf.org, acbegen@gmail.com Reply-To: ietf@ietf.org Sender: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <149912480123.16079.7688117540328146344.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 03 Jul 2017 16:33:21 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [payload] Last Call: (RTP Payload for SMPTE ST 291 Ancillary Data) to Proposed Standard X-BeenThere: payload@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Audio/Video Transport Payloads working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Jul 2017 23:33:21 -0000 The IESG has received a request from the Audio/Video Transport Payloads WG (payload) to consider the following document: - 'RTP Payload for SMPTE ST 291 Ancillary Data' as Proposed Standard This is a repeated IETF Last Call due to material changes since the original last call of version 6. The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits final comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the ietf@ietf.org mailing lists by 2017-07-25. Exceptionally, comments may be sent to iesg@ietf.org instead. In either case, please retain the beginning of the Subject line to allow automated sorting. Abstract This memo describes a real-time transport protocol (RTP) payload format for the Society of Motion Picture and Television Engineers (SMPTE) Ancillary data, as defined by SMPTE ST 291-1. SMPTE Ancillary data is generally used along with professional video formats to carry a range of ancillary data types, including time code, Closed Captioning, and the Active Format Description (AFD). The file can be obtained via https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-payload-rtp-ancillary/ IESG discussion can be tracked via https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-payload-rtp-ancillary/ballot/ No IPR declarations have been submitted directly on this I-D. 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Begen" Thread-Topic: [payload] WGLC for draft-ietf-payload-rtp-vc2hq-01 Thread-Index: AQHSjiCWetWkq3TGrkq64plfxKvAm6G1da2AgAFXNFCAAQj/AICiu9sw Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2017 15:10:10 +0000 Message-ID: References: , In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-GB, en-US Content-Language: en-GB X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [172.19.161.212] x-exclaimer-md-config: 1cd3ac1c-62e5-43f2-8404-6b688271c769 X-TM-AS-Product-Ver: SMEX-11.0.0.4255-8.100.1062-23202.006 X-TM-AS-Result: No--8.966400-0.000000-31 X-TM-AS-User-Approved-Sender: Yes X-TM-AS-User-Blocked-Sender: No Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-EXCLAIMER-MD-CONFIG: c91d45b2-6e10-4209-9543-d9970fac71b7 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [payload] WGLC for draft-ietf-payload-rtp-vc2hq-01 X-BeenThere: payload@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Audio/Video Transport Payloads working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2017 15:10:19 -0000 SMPTE ST 2042-1:2017 has now been published so it would be appropriate to u= pdate draft-ietf-payload-rtp-vc2hq (in particular section 4.3) to refer to = the 2017 version of the VC-2 standard. http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/7967896/ Regards, John Fletcher ----------------------------- http://www.bbc.co.uk This e-mail (and any attachments) is confidential and may contain personal views which are not the views of the BBC unless specif= ically stated. 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Begen" Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2017 23:24:45 +0800 Message-ID: To: John Fletcher Cc: James Barrett , "payload@ietf.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="001a114dcb348e351b0554991df0" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [payload] WGLC for draft-ietf-payload-rtp-vc2hq-01 X-BeenThere: payload@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Audio/Video Transport Payloads working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2017 15:24:49 -0000 --001a114dcb348e351b0554991df0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Thanks for the heads up, James can you do that and we should probably a new WGLC quickly. On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 11:10 PM, John Fletcher wrote: > SMPTE ST 2042-1:2017 has now been published so it would be appropriate to > update draft-ietf-payload-rtp-vc2hq (in particular section 4.3) to refer to > the 2017 version of the VC-2 standard. > > http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/7967896/ > > Regards, > John Fletcher > > > ----------------------------- > http://www.bbc.co.uk > This e-mail (and any attachments) is confidential and > may contain personal views which are not the views of the BBC unless > specifically stated. > If you have received it in > error, please delete it from your system. > Do not use, copy or disclose the > information in any way nor act in reliance on it and notify the sender > immediately. > Please note that the BBC monitors e-mails > sent or received. > Further communication will signify your consent to > this. > ----------------------------- > --001a114dcb348e351b0554991df0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks for the heads up, James can you do that and we shou= ld probably a new WGLC quickly.


On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 11:10 PM, John F= letcher <John.Fletcher@bbc.co.uk> wrote:
SMPTE ST 2042-1:2017 has now been published so it woul= d be appropriate to update draft-ietf-payload-rtp-vc2hq (in particular sect= ion 4.3) to refer to the 2017 version of the VC-2 standard.

http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/7967896/
Regards,
John Fletcher


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--001a114dcb348e351b0554991df0-- From nobody Wed Jul 19 06:55:23 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: payload@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: payload@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9145212F268 for ; Wed, 19 Jul 2017 06:55:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.899 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.899 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id spO6a9XwEBJ4 for ; Wed, 19 Jul 2017 06:55:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2-relais-roc.national.inria.fr (mail2-relais-roc.national.inria.fr [192.134.164.83]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9244B126CD8 for ; Wed, 19 Jul 2017 06:55:19 -0700 (PDT) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.40,381,1496095200"; d="scan'208,217";a="284063159" Received: from ral073r.vpn.inria.fr ([128.93.178.73]) by mail2-relais-roc.national.inria.fr with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384; 19 Jul 2017 15:55:06 +0200 From: Vincent Roca Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_A147A021-0CD1-485C-A599-196DB2A4A6C9" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 10.3 \(3273\)) Message-Id: <67C4DBB5-C923-47CE-9216-366EB77039CC@inria.fr> Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2017 15:55:06 +0200 To: payload@ietf.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3273) Archived-At: Subject: [payload] Discussions on sliding window FEC codes at IETF'99 of potential interest to PAYLOAD X-BeenThere: payload@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Audio/Video Transport Payloads working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2017 13:55:22 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_A147A021-0CD1-485C-A599-196DB2A4A6C9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Hi everybody, Even if I know the PAYLOAD group does not meet during IETF=E2=80=9999, = I=E2=80=99d like to raise to your attention that the NWCRG (that I co-chair) will have a presentation and discussion = on the benefits of sliding window codes for real-time flows. This is strongly correlated to my (and Ali Begen) TSVWG activities on = extending FECFRAME to such codes (I said a few words about it at the end of the Chicago = meeting), but more focussed on what we can expect rather than on the protocol side. Slides: = https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/99/slides/slides-99-nwcrg-07-roca-less-la= tency-and-better-protection-with-sliding-window-codes-a-robust-multimedia-= cbr-broadcast-case-study-01.pdf = Do not hesitate to come if you=E2=80=99re around, otherwise I=E2=80=99m = also open to discussions. NWCRG @ IETF-99 (Prague) ------------------------ Thursday, July 20, 2017 Afternoon session I 13:30-15:30=20 Room: Athens/Barcelona And sorry if this email looks like an advertisement! Cheers, Vincent= --Apple-Mail=_A147A021-0CD1-485C-A599-196DB2A4A6C9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Hi everybody,

Even if I know the PAYLOAD group does not meet during = IETF=E2=80=9999, I=E2=80=99d like to raise to your attention
that the NWCRG (that I co-chair) will have a presentation and = discussion on the benefits of sliding
window codes = for real-time flows.

This is strongly correlated to my (and Ali Begen) TSVWG = activities on extending FECFRAME
to such codes (I = said a few words about it at the end of the Chicago meeting), but more = focussed
on what we can expect rather than on the = protocol side.

Slides:
https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/99/slides/slides-99-nwcrg-07-r= oca-less-latency-and-better-protection-with-sliding-window-codes-a-robust-= multimedia-cbr-broadcast-case-study-01.pdf

Do not hesitate to come if you=E2=80=99re= around, otherwise I=E2=80=99m also open to discussions.
NWCRG @ IETF-99 (Prague)
------------------------
Thursday, July 20, 2017
Afternoon session I 13:30-15:30=20
Room: Athens/Barcelona
And sorry if this email = looks like an advertisement!

Cheers,

  Vincent
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