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Hi,

This is an automatic notification about a new xml2rfc release, 
v3.0.0, generated when running the mkrelease script.

Release notes:

xml2rfc (3.0.0) ietf; urgency=medium

  **Transition to using the new schema v3 output formatters by default**

  This release provides the functionality that the 2.47.0 release had (with
  some enhancements), but is backwards incompatible because the default
  settings for some switches has changed.  The --legacy switch must now be set
  explicitly in order to use the old output formatters.  By default, XML input
  files with schema v2 content will be converted to v3 on the fly and the
  output formatting of the converted XML will be done with the new schema v3
  formatters.  With this release, support of Python 2.7, which is past
  end-of-life, will no longer be part of the test suite.

  There are also a number of other changes.  From the commit log:

  * Replaced the use of the deprecated optparse module with the newer 
    argparse python module.

  * Removed testing with Python 2.7, and added Python 3.8

  * Updated the bin/mkrelease script to generate documentation HTML and text
    for the release, place it on xml2rfc.tools.ietf.org, and mention the
    documentation URL in the release notes.

  * Updated the major revision to 3, given that we no longer support Py27 and
    have switched default output formatters.

  * Changed bin/mkrelease to install using pip3.6 on the tools servers (the 
    default pip might be for Py2.7).

  * Added an 'indent' attribute for <t>, in order to support indented
    paragraphs without the one-item unordered list workaround, as approved by
    the schema change board.  Added default values for the 'indent' attributes
    for <dl>, <ul>, <ol>, <t>.  For the <t> element, the 'indent' attribute
    indicates any extra amount of indentation to be used when rendering the
    paragraph of text.  The indentation amount is interpreted as characters when
    rendering plain-text documents, and en-space units when rendering in formats
    that have richer typographic support such as HTML or PDF.  One en-space is
    assumed to be the length of 0.5 em-space in CSS units.  Only non-negative
    integer amounts of indentation are supported.

  * Improved an error message about bad attribute values to show the line 
    of XML source on which the error was found.

  * Added information about command-line switches that have negations 
    (--no-foo... versions) to the context handed to the documentation template.

  * Changed the default of some switches for the 3.0.0 release: --v3 => 
    true; --legacy-date => true; --external-js => false.

  * Improved the documentation file output for switch default values and 
    for options with negation switches.

  * Updated the Makefile to use the appropriate 3.x release series switches.

  * Updated the requirements for a number of python modules.

  * Fixed an issue where hrefs without matching ids could be generated by 
    the HTML renderer from empty <name> elements.  This also fixed an issue 
    with missing figure and table captions in some unusual cases.

  * Added support for multi-level ordered lists through a '%p' (for parent) 
    code for use in the <ol> 'type' attribute.  Fixes issue #465.

  * Added more documentation for the --version switch

  * Updated the schema and tests to permit <blockquote> within <aside>.  
    Fixes issue #524.

  * Added a list of available postal elements for a country to the warning 
    for unused postal address parts.

  * Added a length limitation for the running header title in paginated 
    text documents, to avoid overwriting other parts of the running header.

  * Changed the schema to permit nested <sub> and <sup>, as approved by the
    v3 schema change board.

  * Added support for outdent handling to propagate upwards to parent 
    elements if the full needed outdent amount could not be done in the local 
    context, in order to be able to apply artwork outdenting to <artwork> 
    elements which aren't situated immediately under <section>.

  * Changed many instances of reference source indications (xml:base) from
    "xml2rfc.tools.ietf.org" to just "xml2rfc.ietf.org".  Removed the massaging
    of reference XML to place seriesInfo elements in the backwards-incomplatible
    location inside reference/front.  Changed the --add-xinclude flag to use
    datatracker.ietf.org/doc/bibxml3/ as the location of draft reference
    entries.

  * Added a couple of entries to the test suite reference cache.

  * Improved the handling of missing day information for <date> to make sure we 
    don't pick days outside the acceptable range for the given month and also 
    pick a reasonable value based on whether the year and month is in the past, 
    present or future.

  * Improved an error message for a case of disallowed XML text content.  
    Tweaked the 'block_tags' list.

  * Changed the manpage template to not use comma before 'and' when 
    rendering a list of 2 elements.

  * Changed the schema to permit <aside> within <dl> on request from the 
    RPC, with schema change board approval.  Updated renderers, CSS and tests 
    accordingly.

  * Tweaked the CSS for block elements that are direct first children of 
    <dd> to render the same way in HTML as in text (i.e., vertically distinct, 
    not on the same line as <dt>).

 -- Henrik Levkowetz <henrik@levkowetz.com>  01 Sep 2020 08:06:27 +0000

The preferred way to install xml2rfc is by doing 'pip install xml2rfc',
and 'pip install --upgrade xml2rfc' to upgrade.  If there are system-
installed python modules which pip will not upgrade, you may have to
use 'pip install --upgrade --no-deps xml2rfc' and install dependencies
manually.

The new version is also available through SVN checkout, with
  'svn checkout http://svn.tools.ietf.org/svn/tools/xml2rfc/tags/cli/3.0.0'

Documentation for this release is built-in, and also available at:
  https://xml2rfc.tools.ietf.org/xml2rfc-doc-3.0.0.html

Regards,

	Henrik
	(via the mkrelease script)


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Hi Henrik,

congratulations to this release!

(And thank you for fixing the running header nit.)

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more about the coordinates of that?

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Hi Carsten,

On 2020-09-02 15:00, Carsten Bormann wrote:
> Hi Henrik,
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> congratulations to this release!

Thank you :-)

> (And thank you for fixing the running header nit.)

Sure.

> You mention a =E2=80=9Cschema change board=E2=80=9D, can you tell us mo=
re about the
> coordinates of that?

It's currently John Levine, Peter Saint-Andre, Robert Sparks and myself.
It was set up in order to have some way of moving forward (or decide to
not move forward) with various changes, whether registered as tickets,
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Best regards,

	Henrik


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Hi,
today I'm experiencing the following problem using xml2rfc web-portal (
https://xml2rfc.tools.ietf.org/):
Generating Text output in ASCII format
Expanding internal references and generating Text
Using XML_LIBRARY=3D/home/www/
tools.ietf.org/tools/xml2rfc/web/public/rfc/bibxml:/home/www/tools.ietf.org=
/tools/xml2rfc/web/public/rfc/bibxml2:/home/www/tools.ietf.org/tools/xml2rf=
c/web/public/rfc/bibxml3:/home/www/tools.ietf.org/tools/xml2rfc/web/public/=
rfc/bibxml4:/home/www/tools.ietf.org/tools/xml2rfc/web/public/rfc/bibxml5:/=
home/www/tools.ietf.org/tools/xml2rfc/web/public/rfc/bibxml6:/home/www/tool=
s.ietf.org/tools/xml2rfc/web/public/rfc/bibxml7:/home/www/tools.ietf.org/to=
ols/xml2rfc/web/public/rfc/bibxml8:/home/www/tools.ietf.org/tools/xml2rfc/w=
eb/public/rfc/bibxml9
*etc/xml2rfc2: line 22: /usr/local/bin/xml2rfc: No such file or directory*
It worked just two days ago.
Much appreciate your suggestions.

Regards,
Greg

On Wed, Sep 2, 2020 at 9:21 AM Henrik Levkowetz <henrik@levkowetz.com>
wrote:

> Hi Carsten,
>
> On 2020-09-02 15:00, Carsten Bormann wrote:
> > Hi Henrik,
> >
> > congratulations to this release!
>
> Thank you :-)
>
> > (And thank you for fixing the running header nit.)
>
> Sure.
>
> > You mention a =E2=80=9Cschema change board=E2=80=9D, can you tell us mo=
re about the
> > coordinates of that?
>
> It's currently John Levine, Peter Saint-Andre, Robert Sparks and myself.
> It was set up in order to have some way of moving forward (or decide to
> not move forward) with various changes, whether registered as tickets,
> requested by the RPC or through the RPC by document authors, or otherwise
> brought up.
>
>
> Best regards,
>
>         Henrik
>
> _______________________________________________
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Hi,<div>today I&#39;m experiencing the following=C2=A0prob=
lem using xml2rfc web-portal (<a href=3D"https://xml2rfc.tools.ietf.org/">h=
ttps://xml2rfc.tools.ietf.org/</a>):</div><div>Generating Text output in AS=
CII format<br>Expanding internal references and generating Text<br>Using XM=
L_LIBRARY=3D/home/www/<a href=3D"http://tools.ietf.org/tools/xml2rfc/web/pu=
blic/rfc/bibxml:/home/www/tools.ietf.org/tools/xml2rfc/web/public/rfc/bibxm=
l2:/home/www/tools.ietf.org/tools/xml2rfc/web/public/rfc/bibxml3:/home/www/=
tools.ietf.org/tools/xml2rfc/web/public/rfc/bibxml4:/home/www/tools.ietf.or=
g/tools/xml2rfc/web/public/rfc/bibxml5:/home/www/tools.ietf.org/tools/xml2r=
fc/web/public/rfc/bibxml6:/home/www/tools.ietf.org/tools/xml2rfc/web/public=
/rfc/bibxml7:/home/www/tools.ietf.org/tools/xml2rfc/web/public/rfc/bibxml8:=
/home/www/tools.ietf.org/tools/xml2rfc/web/public/rfc/bibxml9">tools.ietf.o=
rg/tools/xml2rfc/web/public/rfc/bibxml:/home/www/tools.ietf.org/tools/xml2r=
fc/web/public/rfc/bibxml2:/home/www/tools.ietf.org/tools/xml2rfc/web/public=
/rfc/bibxml3:/home/www/tools.ietf.org/tools/xml2rfc/web/public/rfc/bibxml4:=
/home/www/tools.ietf.org/tools/xml2rfc/web/public/rfc/bibxml5:/home/www/too=
ls.ietf.org/tools/xml2rfc/web/public/rfc/bibxml6:/home/www/tools.ietf.org/t=
ools/xml2rfc/web/public/rfc/bibxml7:/home/www/tools.ietf.org/tools/xml2rfc/=
web/public/rfc/bibxml8:/home/www/tools.ietf.org/tools/xml2rfc/web/public/rf=
c/bibxml9</a><br><u>etc/xml2rfc2: line 22: /usr/local/bin/xml2rfc: No such =
file or directory</u><br></div><div>It worked just two days ago.</div><div>=
Much appreciate your suggestions.</div><div><br></div><div>Regards,</div><d=
iv>Greg</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D=
"gmail_attr">On Wed, Sep 2, 2020 at 9:21 AM Henrik Levkowetz &lt;<a href=3D=
"mailto:henrik@levkowetz.com">henrik@levkowetz.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div>=
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-=
left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Hi Carsten,<br>
<br>
On 2020-09-02 15:00, Carsten Bormann wrote:<br>
&gt; Hi Henrik,<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; congratulations to this release!<br>
<br>
Thank you :-)<br>
<br>
&gt; (And thank you for fixing the running header nit.)<br>
<br>
Sure.<br>
<br>
&gt; You mention a =E2=80=9Cschema change board=E2=80=9D, can you tell us m=
ore about the<br>
&gt; coordinates of that?<br>
<br>
It&#39;s currently John Levine, Peter Saint-Andre, Robert Sparks and myself=
.<br>
It was set up in order to have some way of moving forward (or decide to<br>
not move forward) with various changes, whether registered as tickets,<br>
requested by the RPC or through the RPC by document authors, or otherwise<b=
r>
brought up.<br>
<br>
<br>
Best regards,<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Henrik<br>
<br>
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>> You mention a =E2=80=9Cschema change board=E2=80=9D, can you tell us =
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>> coordinates of that?
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> It's currently John Levine, Peter Saint-Andre, Robert Sparks and =
myself.
> It was set up in order to have some way of moving forward (or decide =
to
> not move forward) with various changes, whether registered as tickets,
> requested by the RPC or through the RPC by document authors, or =
otherwise
> brought up.

Just to provide some more context.  When we had an RSE they were =
responsible for helping the RPC and the developer (Henrik) triage =
incoming change requests and decide how those were addressed, which =
included: saying =E2=80=99no=E2=80=99; changing the XML; changing the =
schema; and changing xml2rfc.

John=E2=80=99s role as Temporary RFC Series Project Manager (TRFCSPM) =
doesn=E2=80=99t include this responsibility, which left a gap that =
Henrik has being trying to fill while doing everything else.  =
Consequently, a small group has been formed to fill this gap as a =
temporary measure while the IAB process to determine the future role of =
an RSE progresses.  That group is made up of Henrik as the developer, =
John as the TRFCSPM, Robert as the Tools Team PM and Peter as an RSOC =
rep.=20

=E2=80=99Schema Change Board=E2=80=99 is a label I=E2=80=99ve not heard =
before for this small group and sounds more established and =
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cheers
Jay

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Thanks Henrik and Jay for the quick answers.

Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten


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On 2020-09-03, at 03:16, HANSEN, TONY L <tony@att.com> wrote:
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> Henrik, the xml2rfc executable appears to have disappeared from durif.

Which triggers a bug in kramdown-rfc=E2=80=99s driver kdrfc when used in =
remote mode (xm2rfc not installed locally):

kdrfc -r3 foo.xml

=E2=80=A6happily accepts the empty output file (which comes with a 200 =
status code and the right media type) from the web service.

Fixed in kramdown-rfc 1.3.12 (well, there is now an error message; =
can=E2=80=99t fix the web service).

Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten


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Hi Greg,

Sorry about this.  Something clearly went awry on the server when the new=

version was installed.  I've re-installed, and things look better from he=
re
now.

Best regards,

	Henrik

On 2020-09-02 22:15, Greg Mirsky wrote:
> Hi,
> today I'm experiencing the following problem using xml2rfc web-portal (=

> https://xml2rfc.tools.ietf.org/):
> Generating Text output in ASCII format
> Expanding internal references and generating Text
> Using XML_LIBRARY=3D/home/www/
> tools.ietf.org/tools/xml2rfc/web/public/rfc/bibxml:/home/www/tools.ietf=
=2Eorg/tools/xml2rfc/web/public/rfc/bibxml2:/home/www/tools.ietf.org/tool=
s/xml2rfc/web/public/rfc/bibxml3:/home/www/tools.ietf.org/tools/xml2rfc/w=
eb/public/rfc/bibxml4:/home/www/tools.ietf.org/tools/xml2rfc/web/public/r=
fc/bibxml5:/home/www/tools.ietf.org/tools/xml2rfc/web/public/rfc/bibxml6:=
/home/www/tools.ietf.org/tools/xml2rfc/web/public/rfc/bibxml7:/home/www/t=
ools.ietf.org/tools/xml2rfc/web/public/rfc/bibxml8:/home/www/tools.ietf.o=
rg/tools/xml2rfc/web/public/rfc/bibxml9
> *etc/xml2rfc2: line 22: /usr/local/bin/xml2rfc: No such file or directo=
ry*
> It worked just two days ago.
> Much appreciate your suggestions.
>=20
> Regards,
> Greg
>=20
> On Wed, Sep 2, 2020 at 9:21 AM Henrik Levkowetz <henrik@levkowetz.com>
> wrote:
>=20
>> Hi Carsten,
>>
>> On 2020-09-02 15:00, Carsten Bormann wrote:
>> > Hi Henrik,
>> >
>> > congratulations to this release!
>>
>> Thank you :-)
>>
>> > (And thank you for fixing the running header nit.)
>>
>> Sure.
>>
>> > You mention a =E2=80=9Cschema change board=E2=80=9D, can you tell us=
 more about the
>> > coordinates of that?
>>
>> It's currently John Levine, Peter Saint-Andre, Robert Sparks and mysel=
f.
>> It was set up in order to have some way of moving forward (or decide t=
o
>> not move forward) with various changes, whether registered as tickets,=

>> requested by the RPC or through the RPC by document authors, or otherw=
ise
>> brought up.
>>
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>>         Henrik
>>
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Hi Jay,

On 2020-09-02 22:36, Jay Daley wrote:
>>=20
>>> You mention a =E2=80=9Cschema change board=E2=80=9D, can you tell us =
more about the
>>> coordinates of that?
>>=20
>> It's currently John Levine, Peter Saint-Andre, Robert Sparks and mysel=
f.
>> It was set up in order to have some way of moving forward (or decide t=
o
>> not move forward) with various changes, whether registered as tickets,=

>> requested by the RPC or through the RPC by document authors, or otherw=
ise
>> brought up.
>=20
> Just to provide some more context. When we had an RSE they were
> responsible for helping the RPC and the developer (Henrik) triage
> incoming change requests and decide how those were addressed, which
> included: saying =E2=80=99no=E2=80=99; changing the XML; changing the s=
chema; and
> changing xml2rfc.
>=20
> John=E2=80=99s role as Temporary RFC Series Project Manager (TRFCSPM) d=
oesn=E2=80=99t
> include this responsibility, which left a gap that Henrik has being
> trying to fill while doing everything else. Consequently, a small
> group has been formed to fill this gap as a temporary measure while
> the IAB process to determine the future role of an RSE progresses.
> That group is made up of Henrik as the developer, John as the
> TRFCSPM, Robert as the Tools Team PM and Peter as an RSOC rep.
>=20
> =E2=80=99Schema Change Board=E2=80=99 is a label I=E2=80=99ve not heard=
 before for this small
> group and sounds more established and authoritative than this group
> is meant to be.

I'm happy to use any label that's put on the group, but would like to hav=
e
_some_ label to use when referring to it.


Regards,

	Henrik


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Yes, there was an installation error on the server.  Fixed. now.

	Henrik

On 2020-09-03 10:41, Carsten Bormann wrote:
> On 2020-09-03, at 03:16, HANSEN, TONY L <tony@att.com> wrote:
>>=20
>> Henrik, the xml2rfc executable appears to have disappeared from durif.=

>=20
> Which triggers a bug in kramdown-rfc=E2=80=99s driver kdrfc when used i=
n remote mode (xm2rfc not installed locally):
>=20
> kdrfc -r3 foo.xml
>=20
> =E2=80=A6happily accepts the empty output file (which comes with a 200 =
status code and the right media type) from the web service.
>=20
> Fixed in kramdown-rfc 1.3.12 (well, there is now an error message; can=E2=
=80=99t fix the web service).
>=20
> Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten
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Hi,

I've had a few questions related to installation of this release, so I
might as well add some notes about installation.  The the following
approach should work.  You may need to adapt slightly to fit your
environment:

 1. If you don't have Python 3.5 or higher, install it.  You can get it
    here: https://www.python.org/downloads/ .  I'll assume python 3.8 in
    the following.  (If this fails, you should not go on with the remaini=
ng
    steps -- you're stuck with the previous version of xml2rfc until you
    can get a Python 3 running.)

 2. If you have xml2rfc installed for Python 2.7 currently:
    Run 'pip2.7 uninstall -y xml2rfc' # repeat until no version installed=

    (Possibly you might need to do 'sudo pip2.7 uninstall -y xml2rfc' or
    the equivalent)

 3. Install for your python 3.  Pip3.x should not need to run as sudo or
    equivalent on most OSes:
    Run 'pip3.8 install --upgrade xml2rfc'

 4. If you have id2xml installed, make sure it's installed for the same
    python version as xml2rfc; for instance if you're moving from 2.7 to =
3.8:
    'pip2.7 uninstall -y id2xml'  (or 'sudo pip2.7 uninstall -y id2xml')
    followed by 'pip3.8 install id2xml'


I hope this is helpful.


Best regards,

	Henrik

On 2020-09-02 13:36, Henrik Levkowetz wrote:
>=20
> Hi,
>=20
> This is an automatic notification about a new xml2rfc release,=20
> v3.0.0, generated when running the mkrelease script.
>=20
> Release notes:
>=20
> xml2rfc (3.0.0) ietf; urgency=3Dmedium
>=20
>   **Transition to using the new schema v3 output formatters by default*=
*
>=20
>   This release provides the functionality that the 2.47.0 release had (=
with
>   some enhancements), but is backwards incompatible because the default=

>   settings for some switches has changed.  The --legacy switch must now=
 be set
>   explicitly in order to use the old output formatters.  By default, XM=
L input
>   files with schema v2 content will be converted to v3 on the fly and t=
he
>   output formatting of the converted XML will be done with the new sche=
ma v3
>   formatters.  With this release, support of Python 2.7, which is past
>   end-of-life, will no longer be part of the test suite.
>=20
>   There are also a number of other changes.  From the commit log:
>=20
>   * Replaced the use of the deprecated optparse module with the newer=20
>     argparse python module.
>=20
>   * Removed testing with Python 2.7, and added Python 3.8
>=20
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 text
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e
>     documentation URL in the release notes.
>=20
>   * Updated the major revision to 3, given that we no longer support Py=
27 and
>     have switched default output formatters.
>=20
>   * Changed bin/mkrelease to install using pip3.6 on the tools servers =
(the=20
>     default pip might be for Py2.7).
>=20
>   * Added an 'indent' attribute for <t>, in order to support indented
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ved by
>     the schema change board.  Added default values for the 'indent' att=
ributes
>     for <dl>, <ul>, <ol>, <t>.  For the <t> element, the 'indent' attri=
bute
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 the
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>     rendering plain-text documents, and en-space units when rendering i=
n formats
>     that have richer typographic support such as HTML or PDF.  One en-s=
pace is
>     assumed to be the length of 0.5 em-space in CSS units.  Only non-ne=
gative
>     integer amounts of indentation are supported.
>=20
>   * Improved an error message about bad attribute values to show the li=
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>=20
>   * Added information about command-line switches that have negations=20
>     (--no-foo... versions) to the context handed to the documentation t=
emplate.
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>   * Changed the default of some switches for the 3.0.0 release: --v3 =3D=
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>=20
>   * Improved the documentation file output for switch default values an=
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>=20
>   * Updated the Makefile to use the appropriate 3.x release series swit=
ches.
>=20
>   * Updated the requirements for a number of python modules.
>=20
>   * Fixed an issue where hrefs without matching ids could be generated =
by=20
>     the HTML renderer from empty <name> elements.  This also fixed an i=
ssue=20
>     with missing figure and table captions in some unusual cases.
>=20
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ent)=20
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>=20
>   * Added more documentation for the --version switch
>=20
>   * Updated the schema and tests to permit <blockquote> within <aside>.=
 =20
>     Fixes issue #524.
>=20
>   * Added a list of available postal elements for a country to the warn=
ing=20
>     for unused postal address parts.
>=20
>   * Added a length limitation for the running header title in paginated=
=20
>     text documents, to avoid overwriting other parts of the running hea=
der.
>=20
>   * Changed the schema to permit nested <sub> and <sup>, as approved by=
 the
>     v3 schema change board.
>=20
>   * Added support for outdent handling to propagate upwards to parent=20
>     elements if the full needed outdent amount could not be done in the=
 local=20
>     context, in order to be able to apply artwork outdenting to <artwor=
k>=20
>     elements which aren't situated immediately under <section>.
>=20
>   * Changed many instances of reference source indications (xml:base) f=
rom
>     "xml2rfc.tools.ietf.org" to just "xml2rfc.ietf.org".  Removed the m=
assaging
>     of reference XML to place seriesInfo elements in the backwards-inco=
mplatible
>     location inside reference/front.  Changed the --add-xinclude flag t=
o use
>     datatracker.ietf.org/doc/bibxml3/ as the location of draft referenc=
e
>     entries.
>=20
>   * Added a couple of entries to the test suite reference cache.
>=20
>   * Improved the handling of missing day information for <date> to make=
 sure we=20
>     don't pick days outside the acceptable range for the given month an=
d also=20
>     pick a reasonable value based on whether the year and month is in t=
he past,=20
>     present or future.
>=20
>   * Improved an error message for a case of disallowed XML text content=
=2E =20
>     Tweaked the 'block_tags' list.
>=20
>   * Changed the manpage template to not use comma before 'and' when=20
>     rendering a list of 2 elements.
>=20
>   * Changed the schema to permit <aside> within <dl> on request from th=
e=20
>     RPC, with schema change board approval.  Updated renderers, CSS and=
 tests=20
>     accordingly.
>=20
>   * Tweaked the CSS for block elements that are direct first children o=
f=20
>     <dd> to render the same way in HTML as in text (i.e., vertically di=
stinct,=20
>     not on the same line as <dt>).
>=20
>  -- Henrik Levkowetz <henrik@levkowetz.com>  01 Sep 2020 08:06:27 +0000=

>=20
> The preferred way to install xml2rfc is by doing 'pip install xml2rfc',=

> and 'pip install --upgrade xml2rfc' to upgrade.  If there are system-
> installed python modules which pip will not upgrade, you may have to
> use 'pip install --upgrade --no-deps xml2rfc' and install dependencies
> manually.
>=20
> The new version is also available through SVN checkout, with
>   'svn checkout http://svn.tools.ietf.org/svn/tools/xml2rfc/tags/cli/3.=
0.0'
>=20
> Documentation for this release is built-in, and also available at:
>   https://xml2rfc.tools.ietf.org/xml2rfc-doc-3.0.0.html
>=20
> Regards,
>=20
> 	Henrik
> 	(via the mkrelease script)
>=20
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> xml2rfc mailing list
> xml2rfc@ietf.org
> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/xml2rfc
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Thanks for these notes Henrik, and for 3.0.

I'd also suggest if you're moving to python3 (I will not judge here), I did
much work with
virtualenv to not blow up your system python.   Glad to assist.

tim


On Thu, Sep 3, 2020 at 2:25 PM Henrik Levkowetz <henrik@levkowetz.com>
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I've had a few questions related to installation of this release, so I
> might as well add some notes about installation.  The the following
> approach should work.  You may need to adapt slightly to fit your
> environment:
>
>  1. If you don't have Python 3.5 or higher, install it.  You can get it
>     here: https://www.python.org/downloads/ .  I'll assume python 3.8 in
>     the following.  (If this fails, you should not go on with the remaining
>     steps -- you're stuck with the previous version of xml2rfc until you
>     can get a Python 3 running.)
>
>  2. If you have xml2rfc installed for Python 2.7 currently:
>     Run 'pip2.7 uninstall -y xml2rfc' # repeat until no version installed
>     (Possibly you might need to do 'sudo pip2.7 uninstall -y xml2rfc' or
>     the equivalent)
>
>  3. Install for your python 3.  Pip3.x should not need to run as sudo or
>     equivalent on most OSes:
>     Run 'pip3.8 install --upgrade xml2rfc'
>
>  4. If you have id2xml installed, make sure it's installed for the same
>     python version as xml2rfc; for instance if you're moving from 2.7 to
> 3.8:
>     'pip2.7 uninstall -y id2xml'  (or 'sudo pip2.7 uninstall -y id2xml')
>     followed by 'pip3.8 install id2xml'
>
>
> I hope this is helpful.
>
>
> Best regards,
>
>         Henrik
>
> On 2020-09-02 13:36, Henrik Levkowetz wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > This is an automatic notification about a new xml2rfc release,
> > v3.0.0, generated when running the mkrelease script.
> >
> > Release notes:
> >
> > xml2rfc (3.0.0) ietf; urgency=medium
> >
> >   **Transition to using the new schema v3 output formatters by default**
> >
> >   This release provides the functionality that the 2.47.0 release had
> (with
> >   some enhancements), but is backwards incompatible because the default
> >   settings for some switches has changed.  The --legacy switch must now
> be set
> >   explicitly in order to use the old output formatters.  By default, XML
> input
> >   files with schema v2 content will be converted to v3 on the fly and the
> >   output formatting of the converted XML will be done with the new
> schema v3
> >   formatters.  With this release, support of Python 2.7, which is past
> >   end-of-life, will no longer be part of the test suite.
> >
> >   There are also a number of other changes.  From the commit log:
> >
> >   * Replaced the use of the deprecated optparse module with the newer
> >     argparse python module.
> >
> >   * Removed testing with Python 2.7, and added Python 3.8
> >
> >   * Updated the bin/mkrelease script to generate documentation HTML and
> text
> >     for the release, place it on xml2rfc.tools.ietf.org, and mention the
> >     documentation URL in the release notes.
> >
> >   * Updated the major revision to 3, given that we no longer support
> Py27 and
> >     have switched default output formatters.
> >
> >   * Changed bin/mkrelease to install using pip3.6 on the tools servers
> (the
> >     default pip might be for Py2.7).
> >
> >   * Added an 'indent' attribute for <t>, in order to support indented
> >     paragraphs without the one-item unordered list workaround, as
> approved by
> >     the schema change board.  Added default values for the 'indent'
> attributes
> >     for <dl>, <ul>, <ol>, <t>.  For the <t> element, the 'indent'
> attribute
> >     indicates any extra amount of indentation to be used when rendering
> the
> >     paragraph of text.  The indentation amount is interpreted as
> characters when
> >     rendering plain-text documents, and en-space units when rendering in
> formats
> >     that have richer typographic support such as HTML or PDF.  One
> en-space is
> >     assumed to be the length of 0.5 em-space in CSS units.  Only
> non-negative
> >     integer amounts of indentation are supported.
> >
> >   * Improved an error message about bad attribute values to show the
> line
> >     of XML source on which the error was found.
> >
> >   * Added information about command-line switches that have negations
> >     (--no-foo... versions) to the context handed to the documentation
> template.
> >
> >   * Changed the default of some switches for the 3.0.0 release: --v3 =>
> >     true; --legacy-date => true; --external-js => false.
> >
> >   * Improved the documentation file output for switch default values and
> >     for options with negation switches.
> >
> >   * Updated the Makefile to use the appropriate 3.x release series
> switches.
> >
> >   * Updated the requirements for a number of python modules.
> >
> >   * Fixed an issue where hrefs without matching ids could be generated
> by
> >     the HTML renderer from empty <name> elements.  This also fixed an
> issue
> >     with missing figure and table captions in some unusual cases.
> >
> >   * Added support for multi-level ordered lists through a '%p' (for
> parent)
> >     code for use in the <ol> 'type' attribute.  Fixes issue #465.
> >
> >   * Added more documentation for the --version switch
> >
> >   * Updated the schema and tests to permit <blockquote> within <aside>.
> >     Fixes issue #524.
> >
> >   * Added a list of available postal elements for a country to the
> warning
> >     for unused postal address parts.
> >
> >   * Added a length limitation for the running header title in paginated
> >     text documents, to avoid overwriting other parts of the running
> header.
> >
> >   * Changed the schema to permit nested <sub> and <sup>, as approved by
> the
> >     v3 schema change board.
> >
> >   * Added support for outdent handling to propagate upwards to parent
> >     elements if the full needed outdent amount could not be done in the
> local
> >     context, in order to be able to apply artwork outdenting to
> <artwork>
> >     elements which aren't situated immediately under <section>.
> >
> >   * Changed many instances of reference source indications (xml:base)
> from
> >     "xml2rfc.tools.ietf.org" to just "xml2rfc.ietf.org".  Removed the
> massaging
> >     of reference XML to place seriesInfo elements in the
> backwards-incomplatible
> >     location inside reference/front.  Changed the --add-xinclude flag to
> use
> >     datatracker.ietf.org/doc/bibxml3/ as the location of draft reference
> >     entries.
> >
> >   * Added a couple of entries to the test suite reference cache.
> >
> >   * Improved the handling of missing day information for <date> to make
> sure we
> >     don't pick days outside the acceptable range for the given month and
> also
> >     pick a reasonable value based on whether the year and month is in
> the past,
> >     present or future.
> >
> >   * Improved an error message for a case of disallowed XML text
> content.
> >     Tweaked the 'block_tags' list.
> >
> >   * Changed the manpage template to not use comma before 'and' when
> >     rendering a list of 2 elements.
> >
> >   * Changed the schema to permit <aside> within <dl> on request from the
> >     RPC, with schema change board approval.  Updated renderers, CSS and
> tests
> >     accordingly.
> >
> >   * Tweaked the CSS for block elements that are direct first children of
> >     <dd> to render the same way in HTML as in text (i.e., vertically
> distinct,
> >     not on the same line as <dt>).
> >
> >  -- Henrik Levkowetz <henrik@levkowetz.com>  01 Sep 2020 08:06:27 +0000
> >
> > The preferred way to install xml2rfc is by doing 'pip install xml2rfc',
> > and 'pip install --upgrade xml2rfc' to upgrade.  If there are system-
> > installed python modules which pip will not upgrade, you may have to
> > use 'pip install --upgrade --no-deps xml2rfc' and install dependencies
> > manually.
> >
> > The new version is also available through SVN checkout, with
> >   'svn checkout
> http://svn.tools.ietf.org/svn/tools/xml2rfc/tags/cli/3.0.0'
> >
> > Documentation for this release is built-in, and also available at:
> >   https://xml2rfc.tools.ietf.org/xml2rfc-doc-3.0.0.html
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> >       Henrik
> >       (via the mkrelease script)
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > xml2rfc mailing list
> > xml2rfc@ietf.org
> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/xml2rfc
> >
>
> _______________________________________________
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospac=
e">Thanks for these notes Henrik, and for 3.0.=C2=A0=C2=A0</div><div class=
=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospace"><br></div><div class=3D"=
gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospace">I&#39;d also suggest if you&=
#39;re moving to python3 (I will not judge here), I did much work with</div=
><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospace">virtualenv to=
 not blow up your system python.=C2=A0 =C2=A0Glad to assist.=C2=A0</div><di=
v class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospace"><br></div><div cl=
ass=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospace">tim</div><div class=
=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospace"><br></div></div><br><div=
 class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Sep 3,=
 2020 at 2:25 PM Henrik Levkowetz &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:henrik@levkowetz.co=
m">henrik@levkowetz.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_=
quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,=
204);padding-left:1ex">Hi,<br>
<br>
I&#39;ve had a few questions related to installation of this release, so I<=
br>
might as well add some notes about installation.=C2=A0 The the following<br=
>
approach should work.=C2=A0 You may need to adapt slightly to fit your<br>
environment:<br>
<br>
=C2=A01. If you don&#39;t have Python 3.5 or higher, install it.=C2=A0 You =
can get it<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 here: <a href=3D"https://www.python.org/downloads/" rel=3D"no=
referrer" target=3D"_blank">https://www.python.org/downloads/</a> .=C2=A0 I=
&#39;ll assume python 3.8 in<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 the following.=C2=A0 (If this fails, you should not go on wit=
h the remaining<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 steps -- you&#39;re stuck with the previous version of xml2rf=
c until you<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 can get a Python 3 running.)<br>
<br>
=C2=A02. If you have xml2rfc installed for Python 2.7 currently:<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Run &#39;pip2.7 uninstall -y xml2rfc&#39; # repeat until no v=
ersion installed<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 (Possibly you might need to do &#39;sudo pip2.7 uninstall -y =
xml2rfc&#39; or<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 the equivalent)<br>
<br>
=C2=A03. Install for your python 3.=C2=A0 Pip3.x should not need to run as =
sudo or<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 equivalent on most OSes:<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Run &#39;pip3.8 install --upgrade xml2rfc&#39;<br>
<br>
=C2=A04. If you have id2xml installed, make sure it&#39;s installed for the=
 same<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 python version as xml2rfc; for instance if you&#39;re moving =
from 2.7 to 3.8:<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 &#39;pip2.7 uninstall -y id2xml&#39;=C2=A0 (or &#39;sudo pip2=
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=C2=A0 =C2=A0 followed by &#39;pip3.8 install id2xml&#39;<br>
<br>
<br>
I hope this is helpful.<br>
<br>
<br>
Best regards,<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Henrik<br>
<br>
On 2020-09-02 13:36, Henrik Levkowetz wrote:<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Hi,<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; This is an automatic notification about a new xml2rfc release, <br>
&gt; v3.0.0, generated when running the mkrelease script.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Release notes:<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; xml2rfc (3.0.0) ietf; urgency=3Dmedium<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0**Transition to using the new schema v3 output formatters =
by default**<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0This release provides the functionality that the 2.47.0 re=
lease had (with<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0some enhancements), but is backwards incompatible because =
the default<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0settings for some switches has changed.=C2=A0 The --legacy=
 switch must now be set<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0explicitly in order to use the old output formatters.=C2=
=A0 By default, XML input<br>
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, which is past<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0end-of-life, will no longer be part of the test suite.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0There are also a number of other changes.=C2=A0 From the c=
ommit log:<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0* Replaced the use of the deprecated optparse module with =
the newer <br>
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&gt; <br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0* Removed testing with Python 2.7, and added Python 3.8<br=
>
&gt; <br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0* Updated the bin/mkrelease script to generate documentati=
on HTML and text<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0for the release, place it on <a href=3D"http://xml2=
rfc.tools.ietf.org" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">xml2rfc.tools.ietf=
.org</a>, and mention the<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0documentation URL in the release notes.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0* Updated the major revision to 3, given that we no longer=
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&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0have switched default output formatters.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0* Changed bin/mkrelease to install using pip3.6 on the too=
ls servers (the <br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0default pip might be for Py2.7).<br>
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&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0* Added an &#39;indent&#39; attribute for &lt;t&gt;, in or=
der to support indented<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0paragraphs without the one-item unordered list work=
around, as approved by<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0the schema change board.=C2=A0 Added default values=
 for the &#39;indent&#39; attributes<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0for &lt;dl&gt;, &lt;ul&gt;, &lt;ol&gt;, &lt;t&gt;.=
=C2=A0 For the &lt;t&gt; element, the &#39;indent&#39; attribute<br>
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d when rendering the<br>
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interpreted as characters when<br>
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when rendering in formats<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0that have richer typographic support such as HTML o=
r PDF.=C2=A0 One en-space is<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0assumed to be the length of 0.5 em-space in CSS uni=
ts.=C2=A0 Only non-negative<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0integer amounts of indentation are supported.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0* Improved an error message about bad attribute values to =
show the line <br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0of XML source on which the error was found.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0* Added information about command-line switches that have =
negations <br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0(--no-foo... versions) to the context handed to the=
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se: --v3 =3D&gt; <br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0true; --legacy-date =3D&gt; true; --external-js =3D=
&gt; false.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0* Improved the documentation file output for switch defaul=
t values and <br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0for options with negation switches.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0* Updated the Makefile to use the appropriate 3.x release =
series switches.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0* Updated the requirements for a number of python modules.=
<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0* Fixed an issue where hrefs without matching ids could be=
 generated by <br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0the HTML renderer from empty &lt;name&gt; elements.=
=C2=A0 This also fixed an issue <br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0with missing figure and table captions in some unus=
ual cases.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0* Added support for multi-level ordered lists through a &#=
39;%p&#39; (for parent) <br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0code for use in the &lt;ol&gt; &#39;type&#39; attri=
bute.=C2=A0 Fixes issue #465.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0* Added more documentation for the --version switch<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0* Updated the schema and tests to permit &lt;blockquote&gt=
; within &lt;aside&gt;.=C2=A0 <br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Fixes issue #524.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0* Added a list of available postal elements for a country =
to the warning <br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0for unused postal address parts.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0* Added a length limitation for the running header title i=
n paginated <br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0text documents, to avoid overwriting other parts of=
 the running header.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0* Changed the schema to permit nested &lt;sub&gt; and &lt;=
sup&gt;, as approved by the<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0v3 schema change board.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0* Added support for outdent handling to propagate upwards =
to parent <br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0elements if the full needed outdent amount could no=
t be done in the local <br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0context, in order to be able to apply artwork outde=
nting to &lt;artwork&gt; <br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0elements which aren&#39;t situated immediately unde=
r &lt;section&gt;.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0* Changed many instances of reference source indications (=
xml:base) from<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&quot;<a href=3D"http://xml2rfc.tools.ietf.org" rel=
=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">xml2rfc.tools.ietf.org</a>&quot; to just =
&quot;<a href=3D"http://xml2rfc.ietf.org" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_bla=
nk">xml2rfc.ietf.org</a>&quot;.=C2=A0 Removed the massaging<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0of reference XML to place seriesInfo elements in th=
e backwards-incomplatible<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0location inside reference/front.=C2=A0 Changed the =
--add-xinclude flag to use<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0<a href=3D"http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/bibxml3/=
" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">datatracker.ietf.org/doc/bibxml3/</a=
> as the location of draft reference<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0entries.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0* Added a couple of entries to the test suite reference ca=
che.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0* Improved the handling of missing day information for &lt=
;date&gt; to make sure we <br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0don&#39;t pick days outside the acceptable range fo=
r the given month and also <br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0pick a reasonable value based on whether the year a=
nd month is in the past, <br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0present or future.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0* Improved an error message for a case of disallowed XML t=
ext content.=C2=A0 <br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Tweaked the &#39;block_tags&#39; list.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0* Changed the manpage template to not use comma before &#3=
9;and&#39; when <br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0rendering a list of 2 elements.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0* Changed the schema to permit &lt;aside&gt; within &lt;dl=
&gt; on request from the <br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0RPC, with schema change board approval.=C2=A0 Updat=
ed renderers, CSS and tests <br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0accordingly.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0* Tweaked the CSS for block elements that are direct first=
 children of <br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&lt;dd&gt; to render the same way in HTML as in tex=
t (i.e., vertically distinct, <br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0not on the same line as &lt;dt&gt;).<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt;=C2=A0 -- Henrik Levkowetz &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:henrik@levkowetz.com" =
target=3D"_blank">henrik@levkowetz.com</a>&gt;=C2=A0 01 Sep 2020 08:06:27 +=
0000<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; The preferred way to install xml2rfc is by doing &#39;pip install xml2=
rfc&#39;,<br>
&gt; and &#39;pip install --upgrade xml2rfc&#39; to upgrade.=C2=A0 If there=
 are system-<br>
&gt; installed python modules which pip will not upgrade, you may have to<b=
r>
&gt; use &#39;pip install --upgrade --no-deps xml2rfc&#39; and install depe=
ndencies<br>
&gt; manually.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; The new version is also available through SVN checkout, with<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0&#39;svn checkout <a href=3D"http://svn.tools.ietf.org/svn=
/tools/xml2rfc/tags/cli/3.0.0" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">http://=
svn.tools.ietf.org/svn/tools/xml2rfc/tags/cli/3.0.0</a>&#39;<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Documentation for this release is built-in, and also available at:<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0<a href=3D"https://xml2rfc.tools.ietf.org/xml2rfc-doc-3.0.=
0.html" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://xml2rfc.tools.ietf.org=
/xml2rfc-doc-3.0.0.html</a><br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Regards,<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Henrik<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0(via the mkrelease script)<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; _______________________________________________<br>
&gt; xml2rfc mailing list<br>
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errer" target=3D"_blank">https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/xml2rfc</a><=
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[ Quoting <tjw.ietf@gmail.com> in "Re: [Rfc-markdown] [xml2rfc-dev] Ne..." ]
>Thanks for these notes Henrik, and for 3.0.  
>
>I'd also suggest if you're moving to python3 (I will not judge here), I did
>much work with
>virtualenv to not blow up your system python.   Glad to assist. 

On this note. I've been using this https://miek.nl/2019/november/13/how-to-install-xml2rfc-on-debian/
(py2dsc-deb) on Debian for ages to install xml2rfc. IIRC all deps are _also_ available in
Debian, so this has been easy sailing for me.

Of course this only covers Debian.

/Miek

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Am 02.09.2020 um 13:36 schrieb Henrik Levkowetz:
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>    * Changed the schema to permit nested <sub> and <sup>, as approved by the
>      v3 schema change board.
> ...

I'd be interested to hear about the use case.

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Am 02.09.2020 um 13:36 schrieb Henrik Levkowetz:
> ...
>    * Changed the schema to permit <aside> within <dl> on request from the
>      RPC, with schema change board approval.  Updated renderers, CSS and tests
>      accordingly.
> ...

In <dd>, not <dl>.

That said, if it's needed there, why not as well in <li>?

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Hi,

This is an automatic notification about a new xml2rfc release, 
v3.1.0, generated when running the mkrelease script.

Release notes:

xml2rfc (3.1.0) ietf; urgency=medium

  * Fixed an issue with an extra comma rendered in HTML for empty date 
    elements.  Fixes issue #542.

  * Added escaping of quotes in page footer and header components when
    generating the @page CSS for PDF output, in order to avoid issues
    when building quoted CSS content strings from the components.  
    Fixes issue #544.

  * Added a CSS workaround for an unexpected HTML rendering behaviour in 
    some browsers, where a <dt> following an empty <dd> would be indented.  
    Fixes issue #545.

  * Improved error messages and the handling of artwork with no "type" 
    attribute value when "binary-art" would have been correct.
    Fixes issue #535.

  * Reverted the default value for the --legacy-date-format to false, on 
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  * Fixed table cell padding to not add left paddding for left-aligned 
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    and similarly for right-aligned columns.  Fixes issue #543.

  * Tweaked utils.build_dataurl() to give consistent results across Python 
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  * Fixed a bug in finding the length of the longest word in a table cell, 
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  * Added a new test case with a tightly constrained table to excercise the 
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  * Added <title> to the list of elements that can have Latin script 
    content without needing the 'ascii' attribute set.  Fixes issue #525.

  * Refined the rendering of <xref> with format='title' for the text 
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    set.

  * Expanded on the docfile description of elements that can have Latin 
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  * Added a test case related to issue #525.

  * Changed the HTML rendering of <xref> within <name> to use square 
    brackets.  Fixes issue #498.

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Dear all,

I'm using Umlauts in my name and affiliation and it works as expected. =
However, using
R=C3=BCngeler in the Acknowledgement section not work. It shown as as =
R&#252;ngeler instead
of R=C3=BCngeler.

See: =
https://www.ietf.org/id/draft-tuexen-tsvwg-sctp-udp-encaps-cons-03.html#se=
ction-8
The source is at: =
https://github.com/sctplab/UDPEncapsulation/blob/master/draft-tuexen-tsvwg=
-sctp-udp-encaps-cons.xml

Any idea what is going wrong?

Best regards
Michael=

